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  • motorfixer1
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 36

    #1

    Flex cable lubrication

    As we all know proper and regular lubrication of the flex cable in a FE boat is very improtant and is often times a messy project. Has anyone heard of something that will allow you to grease the flex cable and stuffing tube without removing it from the boat? Possibly by pressurized means? I.E. an automotive style grease gun to be exact.
  • MassiveOverkill
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 145

    #2
    Says it won't work with teflon tubes, but I've modified my flexshaft so that there's only teflon at the ends:

    http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=grp-2997

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    • m4a1usr
      Fast Electric Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 2038

      #3
      Originally posted by motorfixer1
      As we all know proper and regular lubrication of the flex cable in a FE boat is very improtant and is often times a messy project. Has anyone heard of something that will allow you to grease the flex cable and stuffing tube without removing it from the boat? Possibly by pressurized means? I.E. an automotive style grease gun to be exact.
      I like your way of thinking. Something simple. And it would appeal to about just every RC boater. Here's the monkey wrench on the gear box though. Water intrusion. Even if it doesnt travel all the way up to the innards, will make some progress upwards the inside via the flex assy. And what that does is keep the flex shaft wet with moisture, sans the protection of grease. Since the inner flex assy is steel, no surface protection allows corrosion or even galvanic action to occur and its blocked from a simple visual inspection by the stuffing tube so you get material degradation and no manner in which to determine its effects.

      You can add all the grease you want via some form of injection or oil via some form of gravity feed system. No matter how you design a system a simple visual inspection process is the tool to ensure no flex degradation. And if you have to take it apart to see, then you might as well perform simple PMCS. Just my dos centavos.

      John
      Change is the one Constant

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      • runzwithsizorz
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 896

        #4
        Oil yes, grease no. There are 1/4" stingers with an, "automotive style", grease zerk fitting for bearings, or lead, but NOT for us 3/16" drive guys. Here is an example of what I have, mind you I still think it a good idea, to now, and then remove
        the flex, and thoroughly clean, and re-grease. http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/T-Bar2012.php

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        • runzwithsizorz
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 896

          #5
          Originally posted by m4a1usr
          I like your way of thinking. Something simple. And it would appeal to about just every RC boater. Here's the monkey wrench on the gear box though. Water intrusion. Even if it doesnt travel all the way up to the innards, will make some progress upwards the inside via the flex assy. And what that does is keep the flex shaft wet with moisture, sans the protection of grease. Since the inner flex assy is steel, no surface protection allows corrosion or even galvanic action to occur and its blocked from a simple visual inspection by the stuffing tube so you get material degradation and no manner in which to determine its effects.

          You can add all the grease you want via some form of injection or oil via some form of gravity feed system. No matter how you design a system a simple visual inspection process is the tool to ensure no flex degradation. And if you have to take it apart to see, then you might as well perform simple PMCS. Just my dos centavos.

          John
          Ummmmm, ahhhhhhh, well yeah, what he said.

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          • ozzie-crawl
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2008
            • 2865

            #6
            Mite be over kill,but i always remove flex wipe it down,spray with wd40 and leave it till next time i run before greasing and reinserting in stuffer tube. Never had any flex issues and i would rather do this than chance loosing a prop.

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            • JIM MARCUM
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 773

              #7
              Originally posted by m4a1usr
              I like your way of thinking. Something simple. And it would appeal to about just every RC boater. Here's the monkey wrench on the gear box though. Water intrusion. Even if it doesnt travel all the way up to the innards, will make some progress upwards the inside via the flex assy. And what that does is keep the flex shaft wet with moisture, sans the protection of grease. Since the inner flex assy is steel, no surface protection allows corrosion or even galvanic action to occur and its blocked from a simple visual inspection by the stuffing tube so you get material degradation and no manner in which to determine its effects.

              You can add all the grease you want via some form of injection or oil via some form of gravity feed system. No matter how you design a system a simple visual inspection process is the tool to ensure no flex degradation. And if you have to take it apart to see, then you might as well perform simple PMCS. Just my dos centavos.

              John
              John, you guys crack my A$$ up!!! You must be staying up all night to come up with galvanic corrosion problems in a FE boat. Unless of course, you store it floating in a lake (put zinc bars on it if you do).

              If you remove the flexshaft and put your choice of lube on it after a day of running (you should), you don't need to be concerned about corrosion issues.

              Unless you're hauling bricks in your boat, don't worry about water intrusion via the flex shaft.

              A more interesting debate would be whether to use grease, oil, auto tranny fluid, silicone - and which version of said grease, oil, auto tranny fluid, silicone to use lubing the flex drive.

              JIM
              JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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              • martin
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 2887

                #8
                I worry about any water intrution as i run on salt water where you have to remove the shaft pretty quick, + even the smallest amount of salt water in the boat is not a good sign re electronics & battery.

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                • JIM MARCUM
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 773

                  #9
                  Originally posted by martin
                  I worry about any water intrution as i run on salt water where you have to remove the shaft pretty quick, + even the smallest amount of salt water in the boat is not a good sign re electronics & battery.
                  Absolutely. If you are going to run in saltwater (like the Model Boat Basin here in San Diego) you need keep water intrusion near zero.

                  What type of flex shaft lubrication do you use? JIM
                  JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #10
                    Jim i quite like Grimracer Speed grease, i also use chainsaw bar oil as its a lot thinner but nice & sticky.

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                    • mtbenjamin77
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 761

                      #11
                      I use an oiler on most of my boats. but after a days run when I start to pack up all my gear I pull the flex shaft wipe it down dry then wipe a generous amount of oil all over it. Then put it away in storage until next time. I also let the oil drain out of the stuffing tube so as to not make a mess in my vehicle or shop.

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                      • ozzie-crawl
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2865

                        #12
                        I use lanotec. It is made from the lanolin in sheep's wool. Stinks a bit but is better than synthetic oils.

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                        • TheShaughnessy
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1431

                          #13
                          What's your name. Lanolin? Like sheep's wool. Interesting

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                          • ozzie-crawl
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2865

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheShaughnessy
                            What's your name. Lanolin? Like sheep's wool. Interesting
                            Its technically more a wax when raw. Supposedly they still cant make a synthetic as good.
                            Lanotec offers natural degreasers and liquid lanolin products including timber sealers, lubricants, citrus degreasers, and more.

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                            • domwilson
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4408

                              #15
                              I've got teflon Liners in both ends of my stuffing tubes. Approx. 1.5 to 2" each end. Lots of grease in between on a few of my boats. Works pretty good for me.
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                              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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