Banned from the pond? I think not!

[stadiumyamaha]

Xlandguy
I've checked that out previously and notice the same. As long as the boat doesn't land the fish it's cool. So, any place that allows for this type of fishing should be good for Rc boating. Just tell them your wanting to get to the fish real fast. That's why fishermen need 300hp bass boats to fish off of.

[stadiumyamaha]

I think one of the things that makes it easy to boat here is that there are so few doing it. When someone sees us running they are more entertained than anything. I would image if there was a large number of people always running it would become a problem.

[xlandguy]

I love this. You would get thrown in jail just for having a fire arm in your car the UK lol

And here I might get thrown in jail for playing with my toy boat!

[properchopper]

You are right, deception is not the answer. But I was thinking more along the lines of " if you ban my boat, you have to ban all "toy" boats" . I am going to offer/suggest/ask/beg a set of rules possibly. I will agree to run only during certain hours, on certain days, always no running if the swimming beach is open. No running within say 300ft? of any fisherman. I don't know, I'm trying to think of the best way to approach this. that yoAre there any orginizations u know of that might help or have info on this sort of thing. I see a few discussions on the web. Nothing really concrete. I have a Motley Crew, not the sort of boat to endear the fogies on the parks commision, lol.
I was also told a couple of weeks ago that I do have a right to run my boat on the lake, this was from the local police officer.

If you plan to approach any gov't. body to discuss, it wouldn't hurt to become a NAMBA member first - a good idea for any r/c boater whether or not there's a conflict at the current time - it could start up at any time as tree-hugging has become more and more of a trend among the self-righteous psuedo-conservationists.

Excerpts from the NAMBA rulebook :

Section 9, page 1 of 2 , revised 3/15/06

B. Liability and Property Damage Insurance

1. NAMBA insurance provides the member with $ 1,000,000 per occurrence/ $ 2,000,000 aggregate in liability and property damage coverage in the event that they should be involved in an accident in which a spectator is injured or damage is done to someone else's property. NAMBA insurance also includes a $ 1,000,000 umbrella policy to provide additional coverage per occurrance.


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4. NAMBA liability insurance is individual insurance rather than site insurance and protects the member no matter where they are running, not just pre-approved sites.

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5. NAMBA liability/property damage insurance is in effect any time a member is running a boat, not just during sanctioned events, as long as the member IS OBSERVING ALL THE NAMBA SAFETY RULES (my caps)

Just remember that being a NAMBA member, and being under the protective umbrella of their insurance still requires that one must still act responsibly and not jepordize NAMBA's reputation or cause frivilous lawsuits - sorry but I had to say this

For a full read on the NAMBA coverage stipulations (file too big to attach), go to NAMBA, Resources,Rule Book, Section 9

In addendum, I'm not claiming that this approach would placate the duck-lovers, but it's a step in the right direction. For $45 a year, you can't beat the protection you'll get and give you the ability to show your due diligence to anyone that approaches you on some of the issues under discussion here.

[TheShaughnessy]

I ended up in a finger at the local lake trying to get flat water to run on. The Owner of the house I was next to asked me to find a new place to run, to which i didn't object. Unbeknownst to me there was a gentleman on his balcony that was disappointing i was leaving. Told me he was really enjoying watching me and that it looked like a bunch of fun. During the day I had several people comment on how fast the little thing goes and just a general interest, one guy started telling me about a PT war boat and how he always wanted a submarine.

So the moral of the story is some will, some wont, so what, move onto the next spot.

I've had my fair share of run ins with "tree huggers", even been to court over the matter. I eventually made some friends at a local private lake and now I run there all the time with little to no issues.

As a NAMBA member I also recommend membership, if for no other reason than to support the hobby and those involved at a more political level.

The most important part is that you keep you composure and don't let your passion/anger to get the best of you.

Best of luck in your endeavors and i hope you get a ruling in your favor.

[egneg]

If you plan to approach any gov't. body to discuss, it wouldn't hurt to become a NAMBA member first - a good idea for any r/c boater whether or not there's a conflict at the current time - it could start up at any time as tree-hugging has become more and more of a trend among the self-righteous psuedo-conservationists.

Excerpts from the NAMBA rulebook :

Section 9, page 1 of 2 , revised 3/15/06

B. Liability and Property Damage Insurance

1. NAMBA insurance provides the member with $ 1,000,000 per occurrence/ $ 2,000,000 aggregate in liability and property damage coverage in the event that they should be involved in an accident in which a spectator is injured or damage is done to someone else's property. NAMBA insurance also includes a $ 1,000,000 umbrella policy to provide additional coverage per occurrance.


.......

4. NAMBA liability insurance is individual insurance rather than site insurance and protects the member no matter where they are running, not just pre-approved sites.

.....

5. NAMBA liability/property damage insurance is in effect any time a member is running a boat, not just during sanctioned events, as long as the member IS OBSERVING ALL THE NAMBA SAFETY RULES (my caps)

Just remember that being a NAMBA member, and being under the protective umbrella of their insurance still requires that one must still act responsibly and not jepordize NAMBA's reputation or cause frivilous lawsuits - sorry but I had to say this

For a full read on the NAMBA coverage stipulations (file too big to attach), go to NAMBA, Resources,Rule Book, Section 9

In addendum, I'm not claiming that this approach would placate the duck-lovers, but it's a step in the right direction. For $45 a year, you can't beat the protection you'll get and give you the ability to show your due diligence to anyone that approaches you on some of the issues under discussion here.

That didn't help ODMBA. They are a IMPBA sanctioned D12 club and haven't run this year or last year on a lake they have used for who knows how many years. Once folks get a bug up there as about such things it's a dead subject.

[Rumdog]

Lake house owners.
They have zero rights over you to use the lake unless it is a private lake. They don't own the water, or have any rights more than you over what happens on the water in front of, or behind their house. Actually, on publicv lakes, your legal to step foot on any property owner's dock on that lake, since they actually do NOT own that property. I'm sure they wouldn't like it, but it's a fact.

The fact that anyone living on a lake would try to say you're endangering a species of any animal is just a little contradictory, right? I mean, the place their house sits was a natural habitat for wildlife. Now, it a effin house.

[keithbradley]

I'm in the Lansing area, Holt actualy. THis very small lake is closed to all boats and flotation devices, unless you get permission for an event I am assuming, as the triathalon'ers use a couple of kayaks for safety reasons. But, is my Motley Crew a "boat" or a "flotation device", according to the legal definition of a boat? There is this site that sells a "fishing" RC boat that you actualy use to fish with. The makers actualy got a letter from the Michigan DNR stating that using this fishing RC boat is LEGAL, as long as the fisherman is always in direct contact with the line and it is not the boat bringing in the fish. Take a look here.http://rcfishingworld.com/it/is_legal.html Interesting stuff. (Texas too Stadiumyamaha)
Ya Dana, going through all this is some real hassle, it's bringin' me down man

I assumed you were in Holt when you said Delhi. Where are you running?

[xlandguy]

I assumed you were in Holt when you said Delhi. Where are you running?

Valhalla Park

[keithbradley]

I'm not familiar with Valhalla, but my wife is. She says that she thinks there are normally swimmers there. If there are people in the water you really should find somewhere else to run.
I'm in Lansing and run at Sharp park a lot. It's small but fun. I've also been planning on going out to lake interstate this year to run but haven't yet. Feel free to send me a PM if you're going to be running in the Lansing area and want to meet up some time.

[xlandguy]

I never run if the swimming beach is open and there is even one person in the water, or kids playing near the water. Now that hot weather is here I run early mornings, nobody is swimming then. But if so, I wouldnt run. I have been wanting to head over to Sharp Park, I used to run my cars and trucks quite a bit at Grand Woods, not far from Sharp.

[xlandguy]

This guy is on another forum, but look how he tries out his new boat by immediately buzzing the fisherman in the boat, completely oblivious to the fact that they were there first, peacefully fishing. This idiot is why we have our haters. Warning! Incredibly stupid music with explicit language and idiocy.

[Flying Scotsman]

That guy is an idiot...moron and has a problem with brain skills.

Douggie

[tlandauer]

That guy is an idiot...moron and has a problem with brain skills.

Douggie

He is exactly the kind of ammunition for those people who are determined to stop us! Wish I could tow him behind his boat and ask him how he feels! Should read what he posted on YouTube about running over the fisherman's line.
BTW, good luck and best wishes for your quest !

[xlandguy]

Even more of an idiot than I thought. How is that funny? Yes, exactly the kind of ammo the ones against rc need. He thinks its funny to disturb and bother people engaged in peaceful and lawful activity. I love FE boats, but if that happened to me, I would be starting my boat and running down that asswipe and his boat, not running him over, but if I could get my hands on the boat? Confiscated!!!!!!!