2.4 ghzz antennae design

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  • 1945dave
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 304

    #1

    2.4 ghzz antennae design

    Hopefully the attached photos will show what I am interested in knowing about. Why or what purpose does the large brass tube barrel piece serve below the last tuned section of the receiver antennae. I have seen this concept on several brands of antennae/receivers in the 2.4 ghz world. To easily mount this receiver in a boat this fat section complicates the process. I carefully sliced away the heat shrink tubing and also very carefully unsoldered the brass tube.

    To help illustrate the concept in words here goes. We know you don't mess with the antennae length. This length is very carefully designed by the manufacturer and any altering could reduce your effective range of safe control. The antennaes on 2.4 ghz receiver are called co-axle antennaes with a center core conductor covered with a thin plastic insulating cover. Around this insulator is a woven wire mesh or braided shield and that too is covered with another plastic cover. The only part of the antennae that is active is the last exposed tuned section that extends out beyond the wire mesh shielded lead. In this case the fat barrel of brass tubing is soldered to the wire mesh shield right at the end point of this shield right where the tuned section begins. Admittedly the two recievers shown in my photos are 8 channel airplane receivers but I have seen this on surface receivers as well. Why, what does this fat barrel do? I have carefully checked for range differences and don't find any difference at all.

    Dave
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  • drwayne
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2008
    • 2981

    #2
    chokes rf in shield.
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    • runzwithsizorz
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 896

      #3
      QUOTE: "We know you don't mess with the antennae length. This length is very carefully designed by the manufacturer and any altering could reduce your effective range of safe control."
      Do you really think the manufacturer altered the receiver to provide a longer antenna? http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/L...gth_notice.pdf
      ALSO, http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_93...tm.htm#9350100

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      • jkr
        FE Addiction
        • Aug 2010
        • 568

        #4
        From my experiments on 2,4ghz i know that when i use a higher dbi ant. on my module gives me more range.
        As for the round brass tube on the rx it may be there because it works with one antenna.

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        • 1945dave
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 304

          #5
          I knew the active tuned section of the antennae was the critical length but never saw anyone suggest you could replace the coax cable with something much longer by soldering a new piece of coax to the receiver mother board. I could not open the Losi link but I wanted to read this as well. Have you actually done this?

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          • JonCBrand
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 16

            #6
            Apparently the brass tube is refered to a sleve balun.



            Im intrigued by the LOSI 5ive T having a special antenna. My Baja 5t uses the standard SR3000 with no issues.

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            • jkr
              FE Addiction
              • Aug 2010
              • 568

              #7
              I only change my rx ant but i use frsky d4fr with modular ant cable.2012-05-16 21.34.38.jpg2012-05-16 21.35.14.jpg2012-05-16 21.35.39.jpg First picture the top is 5dbi tx ant.
              Second picture the rx with modular ant cable
              Third picture is the rx ant cable 15cm
              I can put a 40 or 60 cm ant on the rx

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              • 1945dave
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 304

                #8
                jkr, explain how the connection to change out the antennae is actually done, I can't tell by the photo. Is this a screw on fitting?

                Dave

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                • jkr
                  FE Addiction
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 568

                  #9
                  For the rx check here at section 3

                  The TX antenna is a simple 5dbi wifi antenna that screws on the module.

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