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  • islandboy
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 12

    #1

    Shaft tube sleeve question

    So I epoxied in a short section of 11/32" brass tube thru the hull of an 1/8th scale and have a 5/16" brass shaft tube that slips inside it and runs to the strut. I saw this setup somewhere and it made sense to me if you ever wanted to change a worn shaft tube without having to realign and epoxy it to the hull. My question is what's the best way of attaching the 5/16" tube to the 11/32" tube, so it won't leak, can't rotate but would be easy to take apart if I had to? I've thought about using epoxy, 5200 or just shrink tubing (the kind with the sealant) on the outside. Any suggestions?
  • Gary Mullens
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 31

    #2
    some guys use locite.

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    • JimClark
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 5907

      #3
      I have done similar setup and didn't use anything I only attached to the strut wasn't a leak issue. It was a smaller boat but shouldn't be an issue
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      Billy Graham

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      • JIM MARCUM
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 773

        #4
        This is one case where Silicone sealant is OK to use on an FE boat. Put a small dab on the smaller tube when you insert it. DON'T get silicone on the inside of the hull! Epoxy & all other resins won't stick to where silicone has been used.

        Another way is to put epoxy on the last 1/4" of each end of the stuffing tube. To take it apart later, just heat up the tube ends with a micro torch until the epoxy' toasts and it will come apart.

        JIM
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        • islandboy
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 12

          #5
          Thanks for the good ideas. I was about to use epoxy tonight but decided against it. The two tubes fit together so tightly that I think the epoxy will be scraped off upon insertion. What would you guys think of using CA glue put on at both ends?

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          • JimClark
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 5907

            #6
            you are worring about nothing
            "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
            Billy Graham

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            • longballlumber
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 3132

              #7
              I would agree with Jim here... On my most recent build (Phil Thomas Stealth 30) glassed in a 9/32 brass tube and then used the standard 1/4 brass tube slipped thru for the entire stuffing tube. I didn't find a need to glue, silicone, or other to keep water out. Mine has always been dry as a bone.

              Later,
              Mike

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              • JIM MARCUM
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 773

                #8
                With Jim Clark too. Michael's method is EZ & works. If it leaks, try my harder way, or not. JIM
                JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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                • islandboy
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JimClark
                  you are worring about nothing
                  I'm sure you are right, but I run a boatbuilding company and sweat the small stuff on a daily basis. Lots of what ifs. This baby we built had 2600 hp in her and at 42,000 lbs did 60 mph!
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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Peter,

                    Although stuffing tubes rarely need replacing (especially if you lube the cable every time after running), you might try a simple solder spot-weld at the joint inside the hull and seal with silicone tubing like a similar way it's done to seal the flex/stuffing tube joint as in the bottom picture. If you need to replace the tube, re-heat the spot weld to separate joint.

                    Edit : If you use a stuffing tube support like in the picture, it'll hold the inner tube in place and eliminate the need to fasten it to the outer tube as well as allowing the inner tube to be moved fore-aft when adjusting the strut.

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                    • islandboy
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Originally posted by properchopper
                      Peter,

                      you might try a simple solder spot-weld at the joint inside the hull and seal with silicone tubing
                      I like the spot solder suggestion, that should do the job. I can rotate the tube (a little) fairly easily so this will prevent that from happening. Thanks to all for your replys and ideas.

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                      • JimClark
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5907

                        #12
                        There is also heat shrink Tube that has glue on the inside that would seal it and hold in place

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                        "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                        Billy Graham

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                        • JIM MARCUM
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 773

                          #13
                          Tony's method beats the hell out of mine. I need to remind myself: KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. JIM
                          JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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