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  • razzle
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 46

    #1

    Trim tabs on a catarmaran

    I have gone crazy trying to stop the porpoising with my catarmaran i've tried COG and lowering the strut all the way down and pointing the prop downwards as far as it could go, also moving the batteries forward and nothing helps can trim tabs be used on a cat. Has anyone used them on a cat...would they help?
  • dana
    Banned
    • Mar 2010
    • 3573

    #2
    Have you tried moving the strut all the way up?

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    • brooks93
      Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 89

      #3
      move the strut up or move your battery's forward. Can you post some pics of your setup?
      seasoned newbie

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      • razzle
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 46

        #4
        I've tried moving the strut all the way up and moving the batteries forward...The attached picture is from my first run when the strut was level with the bottom of sponsons, when the strut was level like this just touching the throttle the boat nearly does a backflip. I have also tried a smaller prop but hardly any difference...maybe it is just the hull is designed not to go that fast...I've seen trim tabs on the super surge crusher do you think they will work?P1040047.JPGP1040054.JPG

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        • dana
          Banned
          • Mar 2010
          • 3573

          #5
          Try putting the strut 1/4" and sponson bottoms

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          • Fluid
            Fast and Furious
            • Apr 2007
            • 8012

            #6
            Some cats will just porpoise because of faulty design - I am not familiar with that particular hull but it may always run poorly.....or not. Sometimes more speed will get the boat past the porpoising stage. Move the strut up in 1/8" steps, not just shoving it to the top otr bottom. It takes time to dial in some cats.
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            • RandyatBBY
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 3915

              #7
              Have you tried a little more power?
              Randy
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              • Old Sloppy
                Harry from Atlanta
                • Jul 2007
                • 200

                #8
                [QUOTE=Fluid;407358
                It takes time to dial in some cats.[/QUOTE]

                I want to add that sometimes a smaller diameter prop (with increased pitch ) will aid with "Dial In".

                the increased pitch lifts the transom.

                the decreased diameter reduces the bow lift.

                I didn't see your rpm reading , so I don't know if it is too low or too high.

                Stay away from trim tabs, there are better ideas available........

                Harry
                60" Expresscraft SuperCat
                (2) 2028 Castle motors 64.7 mph
                10s3p with x450/3 props
                15,000 mah 40c cells,

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                • razzle
                  Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 46

                  #9
                  Is the grimracer L38 × 63 lifter prop worth a try?

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                  • dana
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 3573

                    #10
                    Nope

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                    • razzle
                      Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 46

                      #11
                      octura x637 dia 37mm pitch 59.2mm?

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                      • D for Dummy
                        www.dfordummy.com
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 55

                        #12
                        There are only three other things to try to stop porposing, you have listed many of the common fixes.

                        1) Raise the RPM with your current setup (through a variety of ways: de-tonguing the prop, larger motor, smaller prop, less pitch)
                        2) Cup your current prop (This will reduce the thrust cone, creating less lift at the prop, and lift the nose of the boat)
                        3) True your hull (add camber if possible to each sponson)

                        Side note:
                        The motley Crew hull is nearly perfect in size, shape, step, camber, trueness. I've yet to experience a better out of the box experience. Many Proboat Miss Gieco and Mystic guys are spending weeks trying to find their ideal setup. I've added a GrimRacer 42x55, My strut is aprox 4mm below the hull. Running two GrimRacer 2s 5000mAh 40C. See my video links on my profile page.
                        Aquacraft: Revolt 30, (Three) Motley Crew / ProBoat: 1/12 Miss Budweiser, Stiletto 29 / Venom: P1 KOS Fountain with all Revolt 30 hardware
                        http://www.youtube.com/user/dfordummy/videos

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                        • JIM MARCUM
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 773

                          #13
                          One unmentioned fix is to mount two trim tabs on the transom large enough to fit between the rudder and shaft struts ( cut a slot to fit the rudder strut), Bend the tabs down at about a 15-20% angle. The tabs will act like the horizontal stabalizers on the tail of an airplane & force the bow down. Increase/decrease trim tabs angle to find the sweet spot at max speed. JIM
                          JIM MARCUM: NAMBA 777; EX? SoCal FE Racers Club; D-19; Official 2012 NAMBA FE Nationals Rescue Diver; Purple Heart Viet Nam Vet; Professional SCUBA/HOOKA Diver, KELCO, 1973-1978; BBA 1978, Magna Cum Laude; MBA 1980 w/honors; Retired DOD GS1102-12 Contract Specialist

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