What is the best handling 32-35" Mono hull on 4s in RACING conditions?

[Kris Flynn]

Hi all,

As the title asks, what is the best for handling and speed in racing conditions on a 4S1P setup?

Seems alot run a DF33 and maybe now some Pursuit's. What is different with the Cyberstorm?

Looking to run 1515 Neu 1y (2200Kv) and Castle 240 controller...

Cheers
Kris

[steveo]

many to choose from also insane boats has a 34" mono now, if you are looking to race in a P class i think you are limited to 34" boat. the pursuit and the cyberstorm are very similar i have heard they have the same bottom but the cyberstorm has a better tape down hatch and a true deep V good for rough water the DF33 has a flat spot on the bottom and a shallower V which should be is faster in the straights, but its all in the setup. also P monos usually run 4s2p

[Scott T]

Hey Kris,

Going by the last 2 seasons in our club, I think the CyberStorm is the way to go - they handle great! My DF33 copy used to handle really well, but I recently noticed that the bottom isn't as true as it once was..... A genuine DF may not suffer the same fate.

For a 1515/1Y, I'd also consider a Rico 31. I think the Insane would benefit from a bigger motor (e.g. 1521/1.5D).

You coming up for the NATS in April?

[properchopper]

Kris,

If I'm correct in assuming that your organization specifies only a 1P setup, and your motor of choice is the 1515 1Y, here's my take :

Rico 31 - fastest, very agile in the corners, does well in racewater

Cyberstorm 32 - fast, good cornering, #1 "all around hull"

Delta 33 - good straight speeds, low freeboard in front creates stuffing probability in heavy chop

IB 34 - Scott is correct - great 4S2p racer with 1521 1.5D and top survivor in racewater. 1515 1Y on 1P will not be fastest but has great potential to outlast others in racewater

Here's a P-mono heat from last year : Yellow DF 33; Yellow Cyberstorm, White Arowana(Cyber bottom), two White IB34's (mine with 1521 1.5D & Marks' with 1527) {all 4S2P}:

Mark's was faster but had 1-lap penalty for clobbering a buoy, Tyler's DF33 stuffed, I pedaled it to the win; no one else came close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0ixeztr-wE

[Fluid]

Man, I sure wish we had such smooth water to race on!



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[properchopper]

Man, I sure wish we had such smooth water to race on!



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Smooth ? Heck, that heat came after three gas thunderboats heats & rescue boat rollers. There's invisable whirlpools/holes that routinely suck boats under

Tyler driving me old DF33 in an OPEN race from two years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6JneLQ4v-g

[Flying Scotsman]

For rough water I might suggest an MHZ Lizard Extreme it is about 32 1/2" long and it is a pretty deep V hull.

Douggie

[AlanN]

For rough water I might suggest an MHZ Lizard Extreme it is about 32 1/2" long and it is a pretty deep V hull.

Douggie

Sorry Douggie, that's a poor choice. Designed years ago for power systems of that era. The hull has a hook in it and even if sanded straight, the hull is not designed for high speeds. I had one on my shelf for years and built it for lso. It just isn't worth the effort.

If you are into building...a wild thing or spin off would also work well.

[Fluid]

Smooth ? Heck, that heat came after three gas thunderboats heats & rescue boat rollers.

Tony, we have all that plus 10-20 mph wind and rollers forming on the large ponds. That video's a cake walk!


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[properchopper]

Tony, we have all that plus 10-20 mph wind and rollers forming on the large ponds. That video's a cake walk!


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Makes for some nice slo-mo vid's if nothing else

At least in Arizona we don't have the Texas winds. Nice and Sunny there (as we go way off topic - sorry Kris)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMuhSQcNBs

[Flying Scotsman]

You are correct Alan mine still has the power systems of that era but I am a hoader of boats that I have built but it was still a fun boat...things have changed a lot since I built mine....35 to 45 mph was fast back then

Douggie

Sorry Douggie, that's a poor choice. Designed years ago for power systems of that era. The hull has a hook in it and even if sanded straight, the hull is not designed for high speeds. I had one on my shelf for years and built it for lso. It just isn't worth the effort.

If you are into building...a wild thing or spin off would also work well.

[steveo]

Sorry Douggie, that's a poor choice. Designed years ago for power systems of that era. The hull has a hook in it and even if sanded straight, the hull is not designed for high speeds. I had one on my shelf for years and built it for lso. It just isn't worth the effort.

If you are into building...a wild thing or spin off would also work well.

i am not so sure that the lizard is a bad choice i have seen a ton of fast stable lizards on youtube one in particular that i cant find was glued to the water and had to be in the high 50 low 60 range on a race course- just my opinion

[properchopper]

i am not so sure that the lizard is a bad choice i have seen a ton of fast stable lizards on youtube one in particular that i cant find was glued to the water and had to be in the high 50 low 60 range on a race course- just my opinion

WW IV 2008 , Lizard (or Lizard Extreme, I forgot which) kicking my green DF 33's & Bill's yellow Cyber 32's butt. [ Liz had a replacement hatch, hence the odd color]

Substitute pond was small and shallow, lots of backslap wave action by mid-race; Delta was having conniptions, Lizard just ate it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgyk5KGceo

[Flying Scotsman]

One of these days I will probably change out the motor, ESC and batteries on my Lizard Extreme and see what she can do but it is a rough water boat, the best I have for those conditions.

Douggie

[Brushless55]

I know its an inch under, but what about the Impulse31?