Which ESC for a serious 2S setup?

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  • Diegoboy
    Administrator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7244

    #1

    Which ESC for a serious 2S setup?

    I am wanting to setup my M1 Supercat S as a 2S boat. She is currently a 4S boat. I am targeting a 4100kv Neu motor. Every time I do the math, there's not an ESC that can handle the amps OR the ones with high enough amps cant handle 2S.

    Here's what I know...
    ---Boat: Hydro & Marine M1 Supercat S 26.5" long
    ---Lipo: (x2 in parallel) 2S PolyQuest PQ5050-XQ 35C / 70C burst 5050mAh
    ---Motor: Neu 1515 1D (2000W surge)

    ---ESC needs 169A / 270A burst

    Is my math wrong or is my motor choice wrong?

    What do you guys suggest?
    "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  • Alexgar
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2009
    • 3534

    #2
    A t180 would be a good start but I've killed many over powered over amped set ups in my offroad car so aim high

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    • Alexgar
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2009
      • 3534

      #3
      On 2s Danny maybe a 240 lv useing any thing over 3500 has got me in trouble in a boat

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      • keithbradley
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2010
        • 3663

        #4
        Danny, fightercatracing has a 300A constant ESC that operates on 2-6s lipo. I'm not sure how heavy they are, but as far as current capability, I believe that's your huckleberry.
        www.keithbradleyboats.com

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        • Boaterguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 1760

          #5
          yup, go with the FC
          unfortunately the 400A one is only 3S+, not that you need it!

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          • antslake
            RC nut
            • Nov 2010
            • 214

            #6
            Why are you going to 2s?

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            • Diegoboy
              Administrator
              • Mar 2007
              • 7244

              #7
              Yes 2S 2P (7.4v total) because IMPBA says N2 uses any motor on 2S
              "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
              . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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              • mikem1234
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 21

                #8
                I have the ETTI Demon Rigger with a neu 1515 1D, CC240 on 3s 5000mah 40-50c can't remeber the numbers from the data logger, but do remember the temps were aleays good.

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                • sundog
                  Platinum Card Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 878

                  #9
                  The Castle chart (link below) does not list the 1515/1D, but I would go with the Hydra240LV. It will handle 2S and should handle those bursts without balking.

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                  • Meniscus
                    Refuse the box exists!
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3225

                    #10
                    It depends on the prop you put on her. Correct me if I'm wrong, but two 2s 5050mah lipos in parallel, wouldn't that be 10,100mah, beyond the 10k limit? I've got batts you can borrow. Regardless as you know, heat will be the issue. If you lose cooling for any reason, the wires are done and hopefully nothing else. On a Prather 225, that will do about 56mph. I would think she'd only pull 135-140A. I'd watch out for the half throttle stuff.

                    If you truly believe that your numbers are right, do you think the motor can handle that without overheating? It may make it. Perhaps call Don F.
                    IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

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                    • siberianhusky
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2187

                      #11
                      Doing almost the same build, Drifter S and a Lehner, my numbers came out very close to yours.
                      Think I'll try a Castle esc.
                      Don't want to be the test pilot for a high amp 2s setup on one of the FC escs. Just haven't seen enough people using them yet to get a handle on them.
                      Learned my lesson with the Motley Crew. One boat I wish I had waited for some user feedback on.
                      What did Darrin use for an esc in his 2s Wildthing he set some records with last year? Can't seem to find the thread.
                      Be interesting to see what happens with these builds. Waiting for hardware for mine.
                      Cheers
                      If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8335

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Diegoboy
                        I am wanting to setup my M1 Supercat S as a 2S boat. She is currently a 4S boat. I am targeting a 4100kv Neu motor. Every time I do the math, there's not an ESC that can handle the amps OR the ones with high enough amps cant handle 2S.

                        Here's what I know...
                        ---Boat: Hydro & Marine M1 Supercat S 26.5" long
                        ---Lipo: (x2 in parallel) 2S PolyQuest PQ5050-XQ 35C / 70C burst 5050mAh
                        ---Motor: Neu 1515 1D (2000W surge)

                        ---ESC needs 169A / 270A burst

                        Is my math wrong or is my motor choice wrong?

                        What do you guys suggest?
                        That motor is fine... Ran the same motor in an N2-Mono and an N2-Sport Hydro for a couple of years without any issues using a Castle Hydra 240 ESC... It's a solid motor choice for a competitive N2 boat.
                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • RaceMechaniX
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2821

                          #13
                          In no particular order:

                          Castle ICE 240
                          Castle Hydra 240LV
                          FCR 2-6S 300A
                          T-180

                          I would recommend extra caps with running N2 power as the ripple currents are generally high.
                          Tyler Garrard
                          NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                          T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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                          • Diegoboy
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 7244

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                            That motor is fine... Ran the same motor in an N2-Mono and an N2-Sport Hydro for a couple of years without any issues using a Castle Hydra 240 ESC... It's a solid motor choice for a competitive N2 boat.
                            Originally posted by RaceMechaniX
                            In no particular order:

                            Castle ICE 240
                            Castle Hydra 240LV
                            FCR 2-6S 300A
                            T-180

                            I would recommend extra caps with running N2 power as the ripple currents are generally high.
                            Is the CC240 LV a 2S ESC? I always thought it was a 3S?
                            "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                            . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Diegoboy
                              Is the CC240 LV a 2S ESC? I always thought it was a 3S?
                              As far as I know it is... I've been using it for several years, using the BEC and everything, so if it's not, it is now...
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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