Help on my first boat

**Boaterguy** · 10-15-2011, 08:35 PM

How many cells will you be running it with?
good job boys, we sucked another into boats :D

**newtoit** · 10-15-2011, 08:54 PM

The motor can handle 10 and the esc, 12. I will try 10 but if the motor seems to be getting to hot ill bump it down to 8

**Boaterguy** · 10-15-2011, 09:54 PM

10S lipo? that's 52k rpm unloaded, aim for about 25-35k unloaded.

**Basstronics** · 10-15-2011, 10:07 PM

subsurface drive...

You might want to consider putting all new hardware on the boat. 3/16" prop shaft and .150 cable should work for you given the motor selection. However if that boat is truly 39" long then a 3674 isnt going to cut the mustard. Think 4074 minimum. Maybe even the 4082.

Also that ESC probably wont hold out. Just my opinion. Im still learning but one thing I do know, go bigger on the ESC. No fun to cook an ESC or overheat while on the water. Its quite embarrassing.

If you decide to maintain that subsurface drive I think you will need to be less than the 30K rpm range.

Interesting old boat.

**newtoit** · 10-15-2011, 10:18 PM

Any links to suggested esc and motor? Trying to stay budget friendly with my first boat, i would hate to spend good money on it and not like it

**Boaterguy** · 10-15-2011, 10:58 PM

you could try this http://fightercatracing.com/index.ph...emart&Itemid=1 on 4S with this ESC: http://fightercatracing.com/index.ph...emart&Itemid=1
The ESC might not be able to take it, consider even running 3S, I don't know how to calculate/suggest subsurface props, you could try with a 32mm/3 prop, for some reason it jumps out at me.

**newtoit** · 10-15-2011, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Boaterguy

you could try this http://fightercatracing.com/index.ph...emart&Itemid=1 on 4S with this ESC: http://fightercatracing.com/index.ph...emart&Itemid=1
The ESC might not be able to take it, consider even running 3S, I don't know how to calculate/suggest subsurface props, you could try with a 32mm/3 prop, for some reason it jumps out at me.

Are you sure that motor would be big enough? Basstronics mentioned 4074 as a minimum. I am going to want to replace all hardware, receiver/servo box, driveshaft, etc. Would it be smarter to just buy a newer boat hull and go from there and forget about this one? I was thinking its going to be very hectic trying to fine parts and electronics to work in this boat. I would hate to have a total headache with this then when its finished i dont even enjoy it. Should i keep this one and work on it or buy a new different one that is ready to drop in electronics?

**Basstronics** · 10-15-2011, 11:51 PM

I thought you were trying to be nostalgic with this boat.

The outrunner motor has much more torque than the inrunner.

Depends on what you want to do. To be honest its an old boat, old design, old technology. Sure we can get you up and running but I extremely doubt it will be as fast or handle as good as a new boat would. Furthermore it sounds like money is an issue. Big boats are not cheap to run. So you got two things working against you here.

I was new to boats not to long ago so I understand your situation quite well. My best advice to you would be:

1) Buy a hull/hardware type combo- cheaper Chinese one. This will give you a boat setup right (or close to it) and allow you to put in good electronics. You have to be careful because for every one good boat design they have 10 crappy ones. So post before buying to get opinions!

2) Find a good used boat from one of the forum. Just because boats are used doesnt mean they are junk. If you are on a budget its truly the best way to get into a decent boat for far less than trying to buy it all new! This is a good time to be a buyer as many people start to sell boats used for the season.

**MR2NR** · 10-16-2011, 10:18 AM

I bought an old 1987 Jet Stream from Ebay and have modified it to go faster than it was designed for 33MPH but I like it. It's different I see too many Geicos and Motley Crews and easy to "buy" Spartans. The fun should be in designing your own boat. True you won't get the fastest boat but at least it will be unique. So if your just interested in speed than ya go for a RTR but you will get a lot more questions form the people who don't have a clue what type of hull you have.

**srislash** · 10-16-2011, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by MR2NR

I bought an old 1987 Jet Stream from Ebay and have modified it to go faster than it was designed for 33MPH but I like it. It's different I see too many Geicos and Motley Crews and easy to "buy" Spartans. The fun should be in designing your own boat. True you won't get the fastest boat but at least it will be unique. So if your just interested in speed than ya go for a RTR but you will get a lot more questions form the people who don't have a clue what type of hull you have.

True Dat In the old days we used to just have those Kyosho or MRP hulls to work with unless you built your own out of balsa/ply.We didn't have the power to push the fiber glass Gas hulls,and if we could find the power the batteries would kill us.I myself really like that funky hull,its totally different so don't garbage it.You can always build it at a later date.

**newtoit** · 10-16-2011, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Basstronics

I thought you were trying to be nostalgic with this boat.

The outrunner motor has much more torque than the inrunner.

Depends on what you want to do. To be honest its an old boat, old design, old technology. Sure we can get you up and running but I extremely doubt it will be as fast or handle as good as a new boat would. Furthermore it sounds like money is an issue. Big boats are not cheap to run. So you got two things working against you here.

I was new to boats not to long ago so I understand your situation quite well. My best advice to you would be:

1) Buy a hull/hardware type combo- cheaper Chinese one. This will give you a boat setup right (or close to it) and allow you to put in good electronics. You have to be careful because for every one good boat design they have 10 crappy ones. So post before buying to get opinions!

2) Find a good used boat from one of the forum. Just because boats are used doesnt mean they are junk. If you are on a budget its truly the best way to get into a decent boat for far less than trying to buy it all new! This is a good time to be a buyer as many people start to sell boats used for the season.

Good point, i would rather buy a newer one and if i like boats i will build this one up. I have been looking at a couple different kinds on hobbyking. Here is some i have been looking at. Tell me what you think. Im mostly going for speed and controlling.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...n%5FDrive.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...n%5FDrive.html

Maybe this one
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ehouse%5F.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...n%5FDrive.html

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...F570mm%5F.html

Ive heard some bad reveiws about the electronics
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...1045mm%5F.html

**Basstronics** · 10-16-2011, 03:12 PM

I would advise against all of those for a total boat newbie.

Go for a mono. The Delta Force monos are awesome, I started out with a 25" knock off type. That boat was fast and handled like it was on rails.

The 32" Pursuits are also very popular- Im building one right now. Just remember, bigger the boat, the more it costs to operate.

**newtoit** · 10-16-2011, 03:42 PM

Any links to good, descent sized, fast, and descent priced boats? Withing the $200-$300 range

**Basstronics** · 10-16-2011, 03:49 PM

Is that the entire boat with radio or just hull/hardware or ?

Where will you run? Lots of chop, waves, etc?

Help on my first boat

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