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FE and Radios question.
We had an incident today at a informal club run. I should explain that the club runs both scale and FE electric boats. It involved 2 folks on the same frequency and the frequency tree was not set up. We run every Sunday but different members show up when they can so the tree is not always available. I was thinking that with 2.4 GHz radios being very reasonable price wise (such as the Tactic) that boats capable of doing more than say 25 mph would be required to use them. As a matter of fact I think it's a good idea for all clubs that race as well whether it's NAMBA or IMPBA. What do you guys think ... would this be an unreasonable requirement?
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49Yes, I agree0%27No, I disagree0%19Undecided0%3The poll is expired.
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DX3C for me..."A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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The "tree" referred to is a frequency tree. It consists of a board (sometimes elevated on a pole, hence the term "tree") with clothespins for each available channel. Before you turn on your radio, you MUST have the clothespin for that freq attached to your antenna. If your freq clothespin is not available on the tree, it means that channel is in use.
I too have heard all the 2.4 myths being spread. That's one reason they came up with the Marine Receivers. (MRxxxx). It solves any issues with communications with a boat AND any rumors true or not."A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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"A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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Yes I know what a freq tree is. i been in boating since 1978.
Hence my point that it is the responsability of all boaters to know
what freq each one is on! 2.4 is not a cure all. this is like forcing everyone
to run the same model of boat, or to only drink bud beer!
Pushing 2.4 because a couple guys screw*d up is wrong!
The tree i was refering to is the tree with leaves that blocks a 2.4ghz signal.Comment
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If you're running a FE on a pond/lake where a tree will block your signal, you've got bigger problems to worry about than frequencies to begin with.
It is possible, albeit highly unlikely, to have problems with 2.4GHz radios. However, if you run AM or FM and someone steps on your freq and channel, you will absolutely have a problem and likely damage hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in equipment.Comment
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I don't believe this should be a mandate for any boater. Many guys in our district are still running 27/75 MHz radios and some have mutliple radios to cover many boats. It's unfair to ask them to switch and purchase all new equipment. IMO time and technology will eventually coerce these guys into switching.
I'll bring up another point: All 2.4 radios are not built to the same quality. While the Futaba, Airtronics and Spectrum brands typically are very high quality I have been seeing some popularity in the clone 2.4 radios which sell for $20. I am more terrified to race against someone with a cheap 2.4 radio than a well built 27/75 MHz radio.
It used to be common practice to call out your frequency before powering on to check if other competitors were on your channel if no frequency clip system was being used. Good practices have fallen by the wayside.Tyler Garrard
NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WRComment
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Its expensive to make the switch. If you are a worried person, make the switch yourself. then let the other am/fm users fight it out.
I did a bunch of years back and it was the best thing I ever did. I no longer have to worry if someone is on my freq or if I power up to check something having to search for a clip.Steven Vaccaro
Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!Comment
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When I used 75MHz FM (in the past) I always kept a frequency scanner running...it didn't prevent kids showing up and turning on across the public pond, but it helped...Support US hobby suppliers
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There are different models of radios to choose from, i'd rather consider it like a boat class, simply like saying, the class will run a certain motor and you pick the hull!! and 2.4GHz is as good as any 75MHz signal!! and the radios are no harder to use than a digital 75 MHz radio!! further more the signal from a 2.4GHz radio is broadcast out the same way that the signal is broadcast out of a 75MHz radio so if that " tree with leaves" blocks my 2.4 Signal will also block your 75MHz signal!! I'm not saying we should make everyone go to 2.4GHz i'm just pointing out that it has all the same benefits as 75MHz but you also have the benefit of knowing that interference is not going to kill your boat and make you *!***!***!***!** your pants!!too much power not in the FE racing dictionaryComment
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"A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
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I still run a high quality FM radio on quite a lot of my boats, but I did switch to a Spectrum marine TX and RX system for my new boats and has been said before quality comes at a cost for marine applications.
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