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  • penz
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 139

    #31
    And I would not say the x442 is my final prop choice. I'm very happy with it for now but my motor temps are still good so I may upgrade to a faster prop when I feel the need for more speed.
    LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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    • JackBlack26
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 905

      #32
      x445 will make a huge difference. Tacon motors are great. I don't know why people like to bash them. I run a 4074, 2150 in my Muggy and on 4S it will back flip on command. Great motor!!

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      • penz
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 139

        #33
        Originally posted by JackBlack26
        x445 will make a huge difference. Tacon motors are great. I don't know why people like to bash them. I run a 4074, 2150 in my Muggy and on 4S it will back flip on command. Great motor!!
        Yeah I want to stick with 2 blade, I was looking at the x640, but the x445 is a possible option too.

        And on the tacon motors...agreed! I don't get it either... I find it hard to find bad reviews on tacons. I have that same 4074 2150 on 4s in my losi lst xxl and its BAD A$$! Also got a tacon on my slash 4x4 and love it. So I figured why not my boat, and once again I'm happy.
        LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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        • penz
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 139

          #34
          Here is a good vid... This was done at my local track, norcal hobbies.

          LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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          • wppracing
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 109

            #35
            I just got the apparition as a spare boat. I also have water coming in the boat. Found the strut mount bolts were loose and the brackets moved up and down. Its almost impossible to tighten them. I had to drill 2 small holes throught the top of the hull and use a screw driver to hold the nuts.
            Also I am using the grimracer 42/55 prop. Had to cut the brass bushing out of the stock plastic prop and press it into the grimracer. Works great.
            Hope to have the water issue fixed today.
            Watercraft Performance & ATV
            wppracing.com

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            • FighterCat57
              "The" Fighter Cat
              • Apr 2010
              • 3480

              #36
              Originally posted by wppracing
              I just got the apparition as a spare boat. I also have water coming in the boat. Found the strut mount bolts were loose and the brackets moved up and down. Its almost impossible to tighten them. I had to drill 2 small holes throught the top of the hull and use a screw driver to hold the nuts.
              Also I am using the grimracer 42/55 prop. Had to cut the brass bushing out of the stock plastic prop and press it into the grimracer. Works great.
              Hope to have the water issue fixed today.
              Usually a 5.5mm socket on an extension will hold the rudder nuts. Have to "use the force" a bit with the ones you can't see.

              Check the water outlet, I'll bet it's not sealed. Same with the antenna mount and water inlet. Then check the stuffing tube itself, I'll bet it's not sealed and the tube moves. Adding a bit of silicone and sliding the tube so the silicone seals will help.

              HTH
              FighterCatRacing Team CHING BLING - Ching Bling. Brilliant, Advanced Sparkle for your hull.

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              • wppracing
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 109

                #37
                Off to the water again. I changed the strut and flex shaft to one off of the Miss Geico. Moved the water outlet forward so the battery isnt close to it, and sealed the antenna fitting.
                Watercraft Performance & ATV
                wppracing.com

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                • penz
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 139

                  #38
                  I was able to get the socket in on mine, they were loose as well, and I know what your saying about using the force... I had all possible leaking points sealed up but was still getting water in... it was coming through the stuffing tube. I'm hoping the changes I made will stop this. Took out the liner in the tube and sealed the tube to strut with silicone. Didn't get to run today, hopefully tomorrow.
                  LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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                  • wppracing
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 109

                    #39
                    Tested the boat again and the hull was dry . NO more water leak. I changed the strut and flex cable to the Miss Geico style. To use this set up you need to cut the stuffing tube about 1/4 inch, enlarge the strut mounting hole, and shortened the flex cable. This now allows you to grease the cable with out taking the strut off each time. Also there are alot of different props to use. I have the Grimracer 42/55 and Octura X642.
                    Last edited by wppracing; 08-01-2011, 10:03 AM.
                    Watercraft Performance & ATV
                    wppracing.com

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                    • penz
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 139

                      #40
                      I'm using an octura x442 on the stock 4mm flex, just need a piece of 3/16 brass tube to shim up. And to grease the flex I have been taking the motor off...easier than taking off the strut and getting it back where you had it.
                      LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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                      • FighterCat57
                        "The" Fighter Cat
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3480

                        #41
                        Originally posted by wppracing
                        Tested the boat again and the hull was dry . NO more water leak. I changed the strut and flex cable to the Miss Geico style. To use this set up you need to cut the stuffing tube about 1/4 inch, enlarge the strut mounting hole, and shortened the flex cable. This now allows you to grease the cable witout taking the strut off each time. Also there are alot of different props to use. I have the Grimracer 42/55 and Octura X642.
                        Yeah, it would be awesome if someone were making a .187 / 3/16" conversion kit for the Gen/App boats.

                        *cough*
                        FighterCatRacing Team CHING BLING - Ching Bling. Brilliant, Advanced Sparkle for your hull.

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                        • PumpedNotch
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 56

                          #42
                          These boats fly for sure!! I got to play with mine and i love it! I will step it up with a different motor later!!

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                          • penz
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 139

                            #43
                            Originally posted by PumpedNotch
                            These boats fly for sure!! I got to play with mine and i love it! I will step it up with a different motor later!!
                            What setup are you running? Prop,esc?
                            LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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                            • PumpedNotch
                              Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 56

                              #44
                              Seaking 180,4's.Octx440

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                              • penz
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 139

                                #45
                                Sounds good. I think I will eventually upgrade to the seaking 180, for now the 125 is hanging in there. So where do you have the 180 mounted? Any fit issues?

                                Yeah they are a good hull, fly is the right word! With the 1900kv and x442 I'm running I got to be close to 50mph! I got to get some gps results, ill throw my droid in the hull once I solve the water issue, of course put it in a water tight bag too...
                                LST XXL-4074 Taco, Slash 4x4-3660 Taco, Appparition-3674 Taco

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