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  • Shooter
    Team Mojo
    • Jun 2009
    • 2558

    #16
    I cut one of my pool noodles. My cuts aren't perfect and it looks as though I'll end up with a rough edge. If two slices are pressed together with rough edges, they will form little pockets where water can get trapped. Darn it.

    Ping pong balls are actually a good idea, but I can't get them through the stringer hole. Mr. Moose would love it

    I think I'm worse than my wife trying to pick out paint colors.

    Regarding the bike intertube, they are quite heavy.....but there is definitely a LOT of different sizes to choose from and they are very removable! Stuff it in, fold it, and blow it up.

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    • Jeepers
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • May 2007
      • 1973

      #17
      I saw a couple of nitro boats running last week end one guy had those inflatable arm floats for kids in his hull.

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      • longballlumber
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 3132

        #18
        Originally posted by Shooter
        Mr. MOOSE!!!!!!

        That is FUNNY... I would bet that no more than 10% of the people on this board know what your talking about or even know what TV show your talking about....

        Good stuff!

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        • Boaterguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 1760

          #19
          ...?

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          • egneg
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Feb 2008
            • 4670

            #20
            Originally posted by Boaterguy
            ...?
            Captain Kangaroo Show ...

            IMPBA 20481S D-12

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            • longballlumber
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 3132

              #21
              Originally posted by egneg

              Ding Ding Ding.... we have a winner!!!!!

              Later
              Mike

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              • Shooter
                Team Mojo
                • Jun 2009
                • 2558

                #22
                I forgot about bunny!!!! (no, not the G-freak girl).

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                • Shooter
                  Team Mojo
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2558

                  #23
                  I'm using noodles and pipe insulation for now, but just stumbled on this idea....

                  These punching balloons might take the shape of the sponsons nicely at low pressure. They are thick wall as well. If you want them out, simply deflate and pull. Install new ones in minutes! I'll give it a try when I get some time.

                  They probably won't withstand a fire though ....and that happens sometimes.
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                  • Boaterguy
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1760

                    #24
                    Condoms work too, I use balloons but I hear condoms around a receiver work well. (sorry, the shape of the balloons just made me think of it :)

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                    • Shooter
                      Team Mojo
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2558

                      #25
                      I didn't want to go there, but you are right. They are close to the right size and shape for a small hydro.

                      I'm envisioning one inflatable per side that is very close to the shape of the inside of the sponson to make it simple and easily removable.

                      I think there is a benefit of having the rubber material near final shape before it is inflated so we can use it at low pressure with minimal expansion...like the punching balloons.

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                      • Shooter
                        Team Mojo
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2558

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jeepers
                        I saw a couple of nitro boats running last week end one guy had those inflatable arm floats for kids in his hull.
                        That's a good idea! Might look into those as well!

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                        • martno1fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 238

                          #27
                          For bigger boats you can use wine bags just inflate to the size you need after drinking .
                          Mart

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                          • Shooter
                            Team Mojo
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2558

                            #28
                            Originally posted by martno1fan
                            For bigger boats you can use wine bags just inflate to the size you need after drinking .
                            Mart
                            That's exactly what I'm looking for. Something that will take the shape of the hull (low pressure). I came across these inflatable bats that might work.... more along the lines of the arm floats (thickness and durability wise).
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                            • British Bulldog
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 24

                              #29
                              This comment might be a bit late in coming, but its another suggestion to the list of methods used for buoyancy, and in some cases self righting,

                              Take some normal polystreane packaging, and shape to the space you want to fit, using PVA exterior glue if you have to use multiple parts to create the shape, be sure to make the pack only a tiny bit smaller then the spare it sits in, looking the thickness of sticky tape basically.

                              Once the shape is made and fits snugly, to water proof the poly to stop water absorption, carfully take some masking tape (thats the off white paper type tape used in DIY) now using this masking tape cover the polystreane with it in strips (masking tape comes in a range of widths, i like to use the 2" stuff to keep weight to a minimum along with overlapping tape with smaller widths) once the buoyancy pack is taped up take some Exterior PVA glue (wood glue is best) and give the pack a good coat, and wait to dry.
                              Masking tape will absorb the PVA creating a water proof floatation pack, now slot it in place and bingo jobs a good un,

                              If you not sure on what masking tape i'm on about its this one....(USA GUYS) , (UK Guys you know where to get it!) http://www.qualitytapesupply.com/sup...ade-6-mil.html not the tamiya masking tape...

                              The advantage of this method is if you have a taller 'cabin hatch' you can use this method in the hatch to help with self righting, Ok its not the lightest method for buoyancy but its definably a good contender (the weight really is minor), over other methods that can leave a lot of gaps, expanding foam is pretty much a waste of time, many forget that the spray in expanding foam even after its initial expansion, a few hours in the sun or under decent lighting can expand again, this can lead to cracking and distortions of the hull,(even more so it the foam is behind a full bulkhead and no room to move) which is not good, its also a PITA to remove if you have to do an internal repair.

                              The air packs are a good method, but they don't fill up all the space due to there shape, so its not 100% effective, it works do doubt but still traps water, and they do loose there effectiveness over time as they age and the plastic weakens, air escapes etc, constant replacements are being looked for.

                              Give it a try you can probably do it for free as all the materials that are used should be in most peoples garages, It only costs you time.

                              I will be using this method on my build in a few days once my hulls arrived and i start the build ( which I will blog on the forum) and its a method that's never failed me in 20 years of boating!

                              Regards Bulldog

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                              • HTVboats
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 803

                                #30
                                PING PONG balls are the best when your building and putting a hull and deck together. Pool noodles cheaper and adapt with trimming. I have also used IV / gas bags. Put them in with a short tube, blow them up and plug the tube. You can also use them filling or removing water that won't slosh for balast or trimming weight for windy days.
                                Mic

                                Mic Halbrehder
                                IMPBA 8656
                                NAMBA 1414

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