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  • Brushless55
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    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #16
    and I'm betting a 5692 on 10s could do the same
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • keithbradley
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2010
      • 3663

      #17
      Originally posted by b.mcdaniel.2009
      I thought about a Leopard 5692 1040kv on 10s2p W/ Castle 240HV esc
      I don't see any chance of this Brad. You are going to need a good sized prop to get that boat to run well and the 5692 isnt going to spin it that fast. I think I maxed out the 1090kv 5692 on 8s... in a smaller boat... with a prop that was probably even a little on the small side for the hull.

      These big monos are a whole different animal. They have so much more mass and create so much more drag. You need a good sized prop just to lift it out of the water and reduce drag. Running a smaller prop wont neccesarily lower current draw like it does with smaller boats. Generally you could go with a smaller prop and higher RPM, but with the large hulls that will start to work against you and you will just end up with a higher current draw and a slower, poor performing boat.

      I would go with AT LEAST a 2028 (and I would make the assumption that they are capable of doing more work than the 5692...anything is possible, but I think thats a pretty easy and resonable assumption). Plan on running a bit lower RPM and a larger prop.
      If you want to use a 5692, bring a twin brother along with it. You're going to need it to go 55mph. I know 55mph is nothing in smaller boats, but it will take a TON of power to get that hull going that fast. I think big monos are the coolest thing out there, but plan on your lipos being raped and your chargers staying busy!

      Got any pics of her yet?
      www.keithbradleyboats.com

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #18
        I agree about the rpms on a hull this size with the right prop dia..
        What about a 5692 730kv on 10s, that should get it done
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • b.mcdaniel.2009
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2010
          • 1641

          #19
          Originally posted by keithbradley
          I don't see any chance of this Brad. You are going to need a good sized prop to get that boat to run well and the 5692 isnt going to spin it that fast. I think I maxed out the 1090kv 5692 on 8s... in a smaller boat... with a prop that was probably even a little on the small side for the hull.

          These big monos are a whole different animal. They have so much more mass and create so much more drag. You need a good sized prop just to lift it out of the water and reduce drag. Running a smaller prop wont neccesarily lower current draw like it does with smaller boats. Generally you could go with a smaller prop and higher RPM, but with the large hulls that will start to work against you and you will just end up with a higher current draw and a slower, poor performing boat.

          I would go with AT LEAST a 2028 (and I would make the assumption that they are capable of doing more work than the 5692...anything is possible, but I think thats a pretty easy and resonable assumption). Plan on running a bit lower RPM and a larger prop.
          If you want to use a 5692, bring a twin brother along with it. You're going to need it to go 55mph. I know 55mph is nothing in smaller boats, but it will take a TON of power to get that hull going that fast. I think big monos are the coolest thing out there, but plan on your lipos being raped and your chargers staying busy!

          Got any pics of her yet?
          I agree keith, I love the large mono's...Just watching the gasser's on you-tube running in the ocean or along real boats is getting me excited

          Here's one Keith or check out my wtb thread were Steve V. posted it.
          Attached Files
          ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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          • b.mcdaniel.2009
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2010
            • 1641

            #20
            Originally posted by Brushless55
            I agree about the rpms on a hull this size with the right prop dia..
            What about a 5692 730kv on 10s, that should get it done
            +1.
            ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #21
              Originally posted by b.mcdaniel.2009
              I agree keith, I love the large mono's...Just watching the gasser's on you-tube running in the ocean or along real boats is getting me excited

              Here's one Keith or check out my wtb thread were Steve V. posted it.
              Hey throw some youtube vids up if you want, your getting me all jacked up now and wanting to sell some of my smaller boats to build one of this biggies
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • crrcboatz
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 914

                #22
                Originally posted by keithbradley
                I don't see any chance of this Brad. You are going to need a good sized prop to get that boat to run well and the 5692 isnt going to spin it that fast. I think I maxed out the 1090kv 5692 on 8s... in a smaller boat... with a prop that was probably even a little on the small side for the hull.

                These big monos are a whole different animal. They have so much more mass and create so much more drag. You need a good sized prop just to lift it out of the water and reduce drag. Running a smaller prop wont neccesarily lower current draw like it does with smaller boats. Generally you could go with a smaller prop and higher RPM, but with the large hulls that will start to work against you and you will just end up with a higher current draw and a slower, poor performing boat.

                I would go with AT LEAST a 2028 (and I would make the assumption that they are capable of doing more work than the 5692...anything is possible, but I think thats a pretty easy and resonable assumption). Plan on running a bit lower RPM and a larger prop.
                If you want to use a 5692, bring a twin brother along with it. You're going to need it to go 55mph. I know 55mph is nothing in smaller boats, but it will take a TON of power to get that hull going that fast. I think big monos are the coolest thing out there, but plan on your lipos being raped and your chargers staying busy!

                Got any pics of her yet?
                Well said. I know the difference between a 260 modded zenoah and a 28.5 modded zenoah in this size hull is a buttload

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                • b.mcdaniel.2009
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1641

                  #23
                  here we go.....








                  Last vid to be is the best...That hull looks sick flying on flat water
                  ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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                  • b.mcdaniel.2009
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1641

                    #24
                    What are you thinking motor wise Keith?
                    ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #25
                      Originally posted by b.mcdaniel.2009
                      hey that second one is the 56" fountain that looked so killer
                      actually second and third video!
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • crrcboatz
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 914

                        #26
                        BMC, having posted my thoughts on the 56 size hull from a gas only perspective because that is all i have experience 36yrs in nitro and gas, the difference in the 56 and the 50" apache for speed is night and day.
                        Below is a link to the sale Aeromarine has on the 50" you may want to consider for this project.



                        Reasons

                        1. I have owned the 50 and the 56 and will tell you the 50 will jump waves VERY well and can hold its own quite well with the larger boat if both have the same power.

                        2. Weight is much different, so is mass in the water.
                        3. The 50 is very stable boat and can take punishment with out worry of rolling over, diving, flipping, etc. Hatch is easy to seal with tape.

                        4. For $175 bucks + shipping you are getting a heck of a lot of boat that is deep, wide, and stable. A proven hull in the gas circles for some time. Much easier to see the 5692 motors in this hull too??? I don't know that but would seem much more likely and for sure less expensive to rig out with the smaller mass in the water.

                        Remember I have had both and the 50 will surprise the heck out of anyone that has not run it.

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                        • b.mcdaniel.2009
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1641

                          #27
                          Another good one...

                          ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #28
                            Originally posted by crrcboatz
                            BMC, having posted my thoughts on the 56 size hull from a gas only perspective because that is all i have experience 36yrs in nitro and gas, the difference in the 56 and the 50" apache for speed is night and day.
                            Below is a link to the sale Aeromarine has on the 50" you may want to consider for this project.



                            Reasons

                            1. I have owned the 50 and the 56 and will tell you the 50 will jump waves VERY well and can hold its own quite well with the larger boat if both have the same power.

                            2. Weight is much different, so is mass in the water.
                            3. The 50 is very stable boat and can take punishment with out worry of rolling over, diving, flipping, etc. Hatch is easy to seal with tape.

                            4. For $175 bucks + shipping you are getting a heck of a lot of boat that is deep, wide, and stable. A proven hull in the gas circles for some time. Much easier to see the 5692 motors in this hull too??? I don't know that but would seem much more likely and for sure less expensive to rig out with the smaller mass in the water.

                            Remember I have had both and the 50 will surprise the heck out of anyone that has not run it.
                            Ok, so let me pic your brain a bit
                            I have a Rio51z and like it and will keep it gas, mainly for the runtimes
                            but between the Rio and 50" Aeromarine Apache, what hull will rock the waves better and is more stable in your opinion?
                            thanks
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • b.mcdaniel.2009
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1641

                              #29
                              Originally posted by crrcboatz
                              BMC, having posted my thoughts on the 56 size hull from a gas only perspective because that is all i have experience 36yrs in nitro and gas, the difference in the 56 and the 50" apache for speed is night and day.
                              Below is a link to the sale Aeromarine has on the 50" you may want to consider for this project.



                              Reasons

                              1. I have owned the 50 and the 56 and will tell you the 50 will jump waves VERY well and can hold its own quite well with the larger boat if both have the same power.

                              2. Weight is much different, so is mass in the water.
                              3. The 50 is very stable boat and can take punishment with out worry of rolling over, diving, flipping, etc. Hatch is easy to seal with tape.

                              4. For $175 bucks + shipping you are getting a heck of a lot of boat that is deep, wide, and stable. A proven hull in the gas circles for some time. Much easier to see the 5692 motors in this hull too??? I don't know that but would seem much more likely and for sure less expensive to rig out with the smaller mass in the water.

                              Remember I have had both and the 50 will surprise the heck out of anyone that has not run it.
                              You really have me thinking here......I can still build a 50" also.
                              ..Eagles may soar in the clouds, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines..56" P.I. Fountain /37"Genesis Cat.-1717/T-180/33" DF Copy-1717/T-180

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                              • crrcboatz
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 914

                                #30
                                Here is a 50" apache doing the same thing wave jumping. See for yourself

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