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  • showstoppercat
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 95

    #1

    Flex Cable assembly... HELP

    Help!! Trying to assembling my own Flex Cable and Prop Shaft
    BUT unable to get my hands on these sleeve retainer type glues in australia (Loctite 603 or Permatex High) the best suggestion from local auto accessorie store is J-B WELD cold-weld compound - any suggestions??
  • martin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2010
    • 2887

    #2
    I certainly wouldnt use JB Weld, I have JB weld that i use for many other applications & its very good but not for what you wont to do. Just my personal opinion. You need to check out engineering suppliers or bearing & ballrace merchants/suppliers for Loctite 603. Your probably like we have in the UK, Very difficult to get these retaining Loctites from mainstream shops or even auto shops. They only tend to keep the thread locking Loctites. You can also get it on Ebay but not sure whats on Ebay in Australia. Thanks Martin.

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    • martin
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2010
      • 2887

      #3
      If you cant find any 603 locally go to australia.rs-online.com. They have it. Martin.

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      • detox
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jun 2008
        • 2318

        #4
        Steve sells the 603
        http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=mc-loc603

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        • FRED
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 233

          #5
          Just clean both parts and use silver solder with a small torch on low heat, just enough to let solder melt and push cable into shaft.Clean shaft afterwards.

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          • siberianhusky
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2009
            • 2187

            #6
            I second the silver solder, need it anyway to solder up the cut end to keep it from unwinding. Personally I have never used the glue method. Been soldering them since the mid 80's.
            Good borax flux and a quality silver bearing solder, never had any problems soldering them or having them fail.
            Plus I can have a brand new cable ready to go in the boat in about 5 minutes. No cure time for solder, once it's cooled it's ready to go!
            I also silver solder clevises and such to control rods, super handy stuff to have around and just as easy as soldering electronics, just use a micro torch and watch the heat.
            Probably cheaper than the bottle of Loctite and no shelf life!
            Do not use regular acid flux or electronic rosin flux! Borax flux!
            Clean the stub and cable really well, brush a bit of flux on the cable, drop a small piece of solder in the stub shaft, slide in the cable and heat until the solder flows up the cable and it bottoms out in the stub.
            Don't use too much solder or it can wick farther up the cable than you want it to.
            I believe the Sta-Brite kit is about 10$ for flux and 3' of solder. Last time I bought one was about 5 years ago and still wave about 2' of solder left.
            If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?

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            • Basstronics
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jun 2008
              • 2345

              #7
              You can buy almost anything on the internet!

              42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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              • 785boats
                Wet Track Racing
                • Nov 2008
                • 3169

                #8
                Showstoppercat.
                Any local bearing supply outlet will have the Locktite range
                the last time I tried to get the 603 they told me that here in Australia it has been replaced by the 609 so that's what I bought.
                But the silver solder is the better way to go.
                Cheers.
                Paul.
                See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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                • martin
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2887

                  #9
                  609 is different stuff ita a medium strength retainer of 2290 psi, 603 is high strength retainer of 3260 psi. Thanks Martin.

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                  • showstoppercat
                    Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 95

                    #10
                    Thanx boys will go hunting today -
                    Question why not JB Weld???? looks like a great and easy product to use

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                    • siberianhusky
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2187

                      #11
                      Strength
                      If my boats upside down then who owns the one I thought I was driving the last two laps?

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                      • showstoppercat
                        Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 95

                        #12
                        I only ask cause the boys in my local auto accessories store have joined two piston rods together (with JB Weld) and the join looks very strong

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                        • FRED
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 233

                          #13
                          showstoppercat; if you ever have to remove a jb weld cable shaft from cable, you'll answer your own ? Jb weld is put into place, it's PERMANENT.

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                          • showstoppercat
                            Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 95

                            #14
                            Thanx boys - just found some permatex sleeve retainer woohoo

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                            • martin
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2887

                              #15
                              Retainers like loctite are designed to work with very close fitting parts whilst having a very strong bond. Stuff like JB Weld being a thick paste dosnt work that well when you have close tolerences like a flex shaft as theirs not as strong a bond with such a thin amount of glue in their. Martin.

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