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  • LuckyDuc
    Team Ducati Racing
    • Dec 2008
    • 989

    #1

    Tips for growing FE in your local club/district.

    I want to use this thread as a source for people to post their tips, success stories, and experiences for growing FE in their area.

    I’ll start…
    I started racing FE 3 years ago and my first FE boat was an AquaCraft UL-1. I quickly got bored running my boat by myself on my lake, so I did some research and found two clubs near where I live, West Bend, WI. One club, Madison Area Fast Electrics, was a FE only NAMBA club located 2.5 hrs from my house. The other was an IMPBA Nitro club located 1 hr from my house. I reached out to the appropriate people in each club and joined as a new member.

    Both clubs were very welcoming, but as a FE boat guy I had to work a little harder at the nitro club to assimilate into their culture.

    Some difficulties that I initially encountered after joining the nitro club, and how I dealt with each:

    I didn’t know anyone in the club and they didn’t know me. While it feels like an awkward situation, the best thing to do is to be outgoing. If you see someone you don’t know, go up and introduce yourself. I quickly learned everyone’s name and a little bit about each of them.

    The other thing that helped was that the club requires everyone to where a name badge at all times. I think this is really important for getting to know people. I was fortunate because the nitro club had a few individuals who were kind enough to show me the ropes and go over the pond rules. Learning the club/pond rules is VERY important. The fastest way to make a bad impression is by breaking the rules. So learn them and follow them. If you don’t know the answer to something just ASK!

    Another difficulty that I had was… I only had one boat, a FE sport hydro, and there were no classes for me to race it in. Initially I just ran my boat with others that were testing and tuning on non-race days. I didn’t complain and decided that the best way for me to learn about racing was to volunteer at a club race to see what it was all about.

    After volunteering for several races I was then approached by a few members who said that it would be fine if I ran my FE sport hydro in the nitro sport 20 class as long as I didn’t mind not collecting points in the heats. I jumped at the chance, and finally got to race my FE in the nitro club. I didn’t care about the points. I just wanted some stick time on the course in race water.

    Mixed racing like this accomplished two things. It showed camaraderie, and it got some of the nitro racers interested in FE. By the time the next race season came around there were enough nitro crossovers, and additions to the FE class for us to have our first electric ONLY class. YIPPEEE!

    In my second season of racing with the nitro club I decided that racing one boat left a lot of time on my hands, so I decided to race another class. Instead of building another electric boat, I opted to get a nitro boat. I thought that it would be a nice gesture to repay the favor by reciprocating. They made it possible for me to race an electric boat/class, and I reciprocated by adding another boat to one of their popular nitro classes, D-Mono. This reciprocity proved to be very helpful in growing FE acceptance. Some members of the nitro club viewed FE boats negatively because they feared that IF it caught on in the club, it would push out some of their nitro classes. By me building and racing a nitro boat, I helped support the nitro side too.

    Our IMPBA club now has two FE only classes, P-limited Sport Hydro, and P-Limited Hydro. I now also race in two nitro classes to show my appreciation and support for the nitro side (D-mono, and nitro Sport 40).

    Another thing that we implemented to ease the fear of FE classes pushing out the nitro classes, or complicating the race schedule was to start the FE classes ½ hour earlier than the original engine start time. This allowed us to get 2 FE heats out of the way before the normal start time, thus relieving the stress of fitting all of the heats in before sunset.

    Please share some of your experiences and tips to keep the trend growing.
  • LuckyDuc
    Team Ducati Racing
    • Dec 2008
    • 989

    #2
    Another tip that I forgot to mention…

    Put together a phone/email tree of people that have expressed an interest in running FE and communicate with them on a regular basis to ensure good turnout at gatherings and race events. Turnout is everything, if you don’t organize well to ensure a good turnout you won’t get one.

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    • detox
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2008
      • 2318

      #3
      I am not outgoing. I am stupid and reclusive. Is there any hope for me?

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      • LuckyDuc
        Team Ducati Racing
        • Dec 2008
        • 989

        #4
        Originally posted by detox
        I am not outgoing. I am stupid and reclusive. Is there any hope for me?
        I’m not sure.

        The good news is, you live in an area that already has a good FE program up and running.

        I would suggest getting in touch with D.Smock and having him do the introductions for you.

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        • detox
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2008
          • 2318

          #5
          I know Doug. He has helped me before...seams to be a verygood guy...just do not piss him off.

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          • Doug Smock
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 5272

            #6
            I've tried many times to get our friend Keith to the pond!
            He is wrong about being stupid. He is reclusive. I still have hope for him.LOL
            Doug
            Last edited by Doug Smock; 04-01-2011, 07:38 PM.
            MODEL BOAT RACER
            IMPBA President
            District 13 Director 2011- present
            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
            IMPBA 19887L CD
            NAMBA 1169

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            • Doug Smock
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 5272

              #7
              Originally posted by detox
              I know Doug. He has helped me before...seams to be a verygood guy...just do not piss him off.
              LOL Man come see us!!!!
              Doug
              MODEL BOAT RACER
              IMPBA President
              District 13 Director 2011- present
              IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
              IMPBA 19887L CD
              NAMBA 1169

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              • properchopper
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Excellent thread As we move towards further acceptance of FE racing in the realm of the IC folks, it's most important to always carry ourselves as if we were designated ambassadors of our "breed". We may have to overcome some pre-concieved notions of what we're about, and every move we make, if done in a positive manner enhances our goals.
                One thing I've found really helps comes out of several experiences I've had in the pits both on race day, and on the odd Sundays when fun running. Seems the IC guys, while highly experienced in motors, pipes and hardware, may lack the depth of knowledge in radio , servo and things electric. When I see some IC boater troubling over, let's say a wet servo or radio issue, we FE guys have more troubleshooting experience there, at least from what I've found. A quick shot of Corrosion-X here and there, and smiles all around. Over time, you'll likely become the "go-to" guy when these situations arise. Recently I helped get a nitro boater's rig back in the water after he flipped it and got his electronics wet; a quick shot of the X and he was up & running. I flipped him my can of X and now he's my "Bud". Last week he even gave me two primo P-230's he no longer needed.
                Keep up the good work & get ready to be busy - Here in D19, FE is blooming and I'm now looking at more and more race dates to deplete my feeble race budget !
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • Chilli
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3070

                  #9
                  I started out three years ago like most of us. I had a build or two under my belt and decided I wanted to take the hobby to the next level. I did an internet search and found a local club in my area which happened to be IMPBA sanctioned. I looked at the race schedule and flyers and found no FE classes. I shot an email to the IMPBA FE director and to the D12 Director and asked why there were no FE classes run at District 12 races? Well, I got no response. I got discouraged for a while and then thought to myself... I'm not a member of the organizaton so why should they listen to me??? Someone has to be the first, so it might as well be me. So I contacted my local club, told them I ran a FE and that I was interested in joining. They told me there were no FE's in the club but to bring my boats to the pond. So I joined the IMPBA and the Capitol RC Model Boat Club.

                  The next year, my son and I ran the only class we could and that was the novice class. We ran two district races that year. I tell you what. From the time I arrived at my first race, I saw the comradery among the racers and I thought to myself: I want to be a part of this. I got to know some of the district members and I gave them a taste of what FE's were capible of. Many were surprised at the performance of my boat. A few of the guys run electric choppers and cars and told me they wouldnt mind running FE classes if they were available. I thougt I made a pretty good impression on the district that year so in the fall of '09 with the help of Doug Smock, I composed a proposal for the district to either advertise a few FE classes in the district flyers or two run a few combined classes with the nitro classes. I solicited input from potential FE racers on OSE and from nitro racers in the International Waters Forum. I then lobbied to all the District club officers in the district so they would have time to think about it and discuss the proposal among thier club members. I made sure everyone knew about the proposal and I didnt want any surprises for district members.

                  When the District winter meeting took place last Feb '10, I drove down to Richmond and presented my proposal to the district. The district director Don Ferrette supported running combined classes due to the fact that nitro numbers were down a bit and he did not want to increase the number of classes in an already busy race schedule. The district officers agreed and I came out of the meeting with combined Nitro/FE classes in B/P-mono, B/P-Spec Tunnel and B/P-Spec hydro. We had a successful year in 2010. FE participation was very light at most of the District races but Dick Loeb the President of the Old Dominion Model Boat Club did a heck of a job promoting FE's at their district race. We had a great turn out. Doug Smock and Paul Rollins even came up from D13 to support us. We ran our first all FE heats that weekend and impressed alot of people.

                  Now it's 2011. We're picking up more FE members in my club and the district. We had our winter meeting and the district director proposed an Open FE Hydro class and a Open FE Mono class. Dick Loeb also proposed a Open Tunnel class. All passed so now we have three more classes for FE's to run in. The icing on the cake is Don our district director and my club VP Carl Cisneros are both building FE's to run this season. I could not have hoped for a better outcome when I started two years ago. As a matter of fact, there were times when I was ready to throw in the towl. But the support of Mr Smock, Kent Seal "Hotwater", and Chuck Genge "egneg" kept me motivated. There is nothing more we can ask from the district at this time. The ball is in our court now and we have to step up to the plate and show up at district races in numbers. We'll see how it goes.

                  Here are my tips for breaking the FE barrier:

                  1. If you want to get into racing and have a local club, contact them. If they don't have any FE members but appear to be open to the idea, join them. Someone has to be the first.
                  2. Be active in the club, help out as much as you can. Go above and beyond. Not only did I contribute at my district race, Kent and I helped the Delmarva club pull down netting after their race, I created hobby shop flyers for the Old Dominon clubs' district race to attract potential new club members and I helped the Baltimore Club set up netting at their race. These little things go a long way in gaining respect and support of other clubs in the district.
                  3. Knock that FE chip off your shoulder. Don't shove FE's down club members throat. Thats a quick way to turn people off. Show interest in their boats. Indroduce your self and ask questions. Don't mention you run FE boats unless they ask. Be prepaired for comments that you may deem offensive. Laugh it off. Most times it's based on ignorance. And I don't mean that in an insulting way.
                  4. Have your sheeet together. First impressions are important. Show them you take the hobby as serious as they do.
                  5. When you start racing, stay out of trouble. Don't go diving into lane 1 and try your best not to hit any dead boats. Hang back at the start and learn how to hold your lane and drive in traffic.
                  6. Try your best to recruit new members into the club. More membership means more money for the club and less work during race day. And believe me, hosting a race is alot of work!!! Plus there is strength in numbers. The more FE's you have in the club, the more leverge you have to ask the club for classes.

                  Last edited by Chilli; 04-02-2011, 06:03 PM.
                  Mike Chirillo
                  www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                  • HOTWATER
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2323

                    #10
                    This is a true story fellas!

                    You motivated me too bro...in fact, if it weren't for you at the beginning, I probably would have never gotten into racing FE's....I absolutely love it now!

                    Good people like Doug Smock and Don Ferrette have been there for us the whole time...Thanks guys!

                    Great post Mike!
                    "Will race for cookies!"
                    IMPBA D12
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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nautiboyz
                      Here are my tips for breaking the FE barrier:

                      1. If you want to get into racing and have a local club, contact them. If they don't have any FE members but appear to be open to the idea, join them. Someone has to be the first.
                      2. Be active in the club, help out as much as you can. Go above and beyond. That will get you respect within the club.
                      3. Knock that FE chip off your shoulder. Don't shove FE's down club members throat. Thats a quick way to turn people off. Show interest in their boats. Indroduce your self and ask questions. Don't mention you run FE boats unless they ask. Be prepaired for comments that you may deem offensive. Laugh it off. Most times it's based on ignorance. And I don't mean that in an insulting way.
                      4. Have your sheeet together. First impressions are important. Show them you take the hobby as serious as they do.
                      5. When you start racing, stay out of trouble. Don't go diving into lane 1 and try your best not to hit any dead boats. Hang back at the start and learn how to hold your lane and drive in traffic.
                      6. Try your best to recruit new members into the club. More membership means more money for the club and less work during race day. And believe me, hosting a race is alot of work!!! Plus there is strength in numbers. The more FE's you have in the club, the more leverge you have to ask the club for classes.


                      Know the rules. They are cleverly hidden in the rulebook.

                      Work: Don't be afraid of it.
                      Make yourself valuable.
                      Show up for pond clean up day.
                      If you see something that needs to be done do it.
                      Learn how run the retrieve boat if you don't already.
                      Learn how to replace buoys.
                      Learn what a good pit-man is and how to be one.
                      If you are one to get really involved,
                      Take the CD test. (IMPBA)
                      Offer to help organize races, take entries etc.
                      Simply ask what can I do to help, it goes a long way.

                      My story is a simple one.
                      We ( a small group of FE guys) were asked not to come back to the city park where we were members of the Southeast Model Boaters.
                      I contacted the Atlanta Model Boaters and asked if we could come and play. Unlike some of the clubs out there the nitro participation in the GP series was down so they gave us two classes. We raced P Mono and LSH the first season. We did all of the above. We were a big part of making things happen as far as getting work done and just generally helping out.
                      By the end of the first season we had two gas guys running LSH and one of them had a P Mono.
                      The rest is history. We race five classes in the series and if we wanted another one all I'd have to do is ask.
                      Just go and do, by all means don't be a PITA, and the rest will take care of itself.
                      Doug
                      MODEL BOAT RACER
                      IMPBA President
                      District 13 Director 2011- present
                      IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                      IMPBA 19887L CD
                      NAMBA 1169

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                      • egneg
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4670

                        #12
                        I agree with Kent, Mike is the one who motivated me to join and run FE along with Dirty South (Don Richards) who ran nitro with the ODMBA club. Dick, Tim, and the rest of the club members were a great help and made me feel right at home. I had a great time last season and even managed to place in a few races - not bad for a first timer but I had lots of help and encouragement.

                        IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                        • HOTWATER
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2323

                          #13
                          Originally posted by egneg
                          I agree with Kent, Mike is the one who motivated me to join and run FE along with Dirty South (Don Richards) who ran nitro with the ODMBA club. Dick, Tim, and the rest of the club members were a great help and made me feel right at home. I had a great time last season and even managed to place in a few races - not bad for a first timer but I had lots of help and encouragement.


                          Right on bro!
                          "Will race for cookies!"
                          IMPBA D12
                          My Gallery: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/album.php?u=1738

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                          • LuckyDuc
                            Team Ducati Racing
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 989

                            #14
                            Great posts from all! Keep up the good work.

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                            • LarrysDrifter
                              Big Booty Daddy
                              • May 2010
                              • 3278

                              #15
                              This is a very motivational thread. I might have to re new my Dist.6 membership and get out there this summer.

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