T-120 stut-t-t-t-tering issue?

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  • tiqueman
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2009
    • 5669

    #1

    T-120 stut-t-t-t-tering issue?

    Hey gents,
    Ive got a pair of Turnigy 120s in a 32" cat. I had been running them at thier max voltage (6S) for almost a year now and Im in no way complaining about whats taking place. Ive already ordered the replacement and have installed it.

    So heres the issue. I ran the boat for the first time on 4S a few days ago. It was not impressive at all. 540 10 XLS, I thought would have done mid 40s perhaps. I dont think it was going 25. On teh second lap I noticed the hull was riding sideways in the water. The back end was walking badly in one direction.. kinda wierd for running counter rotatin props. Then all the sudden liek a turbo kicked in, and the boat startin moving nicely as I suspected it should have. It turned about a lap and a half and kicked back down to half speed. I brought it in and noticed the starboard motor, when you tried to hit the throttle, makes a very bad studdering noise and then starts to go. Then when it does go, its not at full throttle. I brought it in to the bench and began testing to find out it is in fact the esc.

    It does not smell funny, look abnormal etc etc. I took apart and cleaned the connector at the servo end yes I did check the splitter as I did all the trial and error w/ only one esc at a time plugged into the rx, bypassing the splitter. I dont know enough about the guts of an esc to know what it might be doing.

    Any thoughts? Im not worried if I cant get it going again, Ive just never seen an esc do this. In my experiences, it either works, or it doesnt.. nothing in between.
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  • hebner
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 647

    #2
    Did you check all the soldered connections on the motor bullets and the esc board?

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    • tiqueman
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jul 2009
      • 5669

      #3
      Originally posted by hebner
      Did you check all the soldered connections on the motor bullets and the esc board?
      Not the board itself, but all the bullets I soldered, both power and and motor end. I havent cut it open yet,.
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      • Diesel6401
        Memento Vivere
        • Oct 2009
        • 4204

        #4
        Did you try dis-ableing the LVC? Sometimes the LVC's on those seakings do some funny things. Other then that those are some of the best bang for your buck esc's you can buy!
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        • egneg
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Feb 2008
          • 4670

          #5
          Whenever I have had cogging issues it's been a solder connection. Even though they seem tight a poor solder joint can oxidize and produce those results.
          Last edited by egneg; 01-28-2011, 06:12 PM.
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          • oscarel
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2009
            • 2127

            #6
            I just had the same thing happen on an esc, the connections all looked good but unsoldering and resoldering solved the stuttering.

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            • tiqueman
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              • Jul 2009
              • 5669

              #7
              Originally posted by Diesel6401
              Did you try dis-ableing the LVC? Sometimes the LVC's on those seakings do some funny things. Other then that those are some of the best bang for your buck esc's you can buy!
              Yeah I was running it on a UBEC when it happen


              Originally posted by egneg
              Whenever I have had cogging issues it's been a solder connection. Even though they seem tight a poor solder joint can oxidize and produce those results.
              Originally posted by oscarel
              I just had the same thing happen on an esc, the connections all looked good but unsoldering and resoldering solved the stuttering.
              Hmm, I will try re-melting all the connections and get back to you. I was going to try that but thought it would just be a waste of time....
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              • tiqueman
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jul 2009
                • 5669

                #8
                I just re-read that Deisel.. no I didn not dissable the LVC. I read it as BEC. I tried re-soldering everything and its still a no go.
                Last edited by tiqueman; 01-28-2011, 10:49 PM.
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                • tiqueman
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5669

                  #9
                  Well... first I turned off the LVC, still wouldnt work right, so off the shrink wrap came. Im decent w/ electronics, took a few classes, built some things from kits (phones, water sensor, strobe lights) so its not virgin territory but Ive never attempted to work on an esc. So theres two boards, this I already knew. What I did not know, is that the upper smaller board is soldered permanently to the lower larger board. I examined it for several minutes and I assumed it was just plugged into it w/ one of those micro bars w/ 10 or fifteen pins down each side. I pried on it gently w/ a flat head screw driver while watching it closely and realized it was soldered. The pins (I think 4 down each side) are bent over and soldered to the board. How, I have no idea. But I did hear a small crack so Im assuming I destroyed it. So I hooked it all back up, motor, esc, external bec battery, plug in the neg, plug in the positive and ... now my hands smell like fried esc.. as does my hobby room... I hope it doesnt venture out into the living room or Ill hear it

                  Its now in the circular file. But, if anyone has any info as to what may be the cause of the original issue, Id still like to know. And as Deisel said, for the money, I will still buy them, Ive already replaced it. They are damn good escs for the dollar.
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                  • ray schrauwen
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9471

                    #10
                    Running them at the full 6S load the one may have given up slightly. You may have only partially fried a FET making it inoperable all together.
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                    • Diesel6401
                      Memento Vivere
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4204

                      #11
                      O man... Fireworks at Tiq house tonight....

                      All seriousness, hope all is ok and sorry about your esc!
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                      • tiqueman
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5669

                        #12
                        Sounded more like an M-80 going off. It was... awesome... I cant get the smell outta my hand.

                        Had the fet partially fried, would it have had an odor or dicoloration somewhere or something? Cause there was no signs anywhere of an issue.
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                        • Diesel6401
                          Memento Vivere
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4204

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tiqueman
                          Sounded more like an M-80 going off. It was... awesome... I cant get the smell outta my hand.
                          Yea I remember when I blew my swordfish/aquastar 120 on plugin on my bench (long story)... Was pretty cool, well not at that time... My arse puckered for a second
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