Would you still race?

[Basstronics]

And note...

My comment is made from the standpoint of a fun run person. Also it was made in the context of seeing what was posted only with no back story.

No matter how it is put it would still seem like its bad. Hey your to good, take it down a notch.

But I guess if you are trying to pit the gas and the FE then things could get unfair I suppose. Thats not my debate- I dont care about the particulars.

To me the whole rule just comes off real cocky... Thats all.

[Chilli]

If you havent already and it's not to far Ryan, attend a race. It adds a whole new dimemsion to the hobby. The comradery is the best part. You'll be hooked!

[ray schrauwen]

Well Don, I'm kind of sick hearing a handful of idiots whining our boats are too fast OR just the opposite calling a fast electric boat and the driver a piece of S*** since it didn't finish a race.

How do we find par with this???

Some Fuel clubs are great and others are just steeped in redneck mentality.

I'm glad the FUEL club I'm joining on Sunday is FE friendly, otherwise I would be alone.....

[ray schrauwen]

It's high time the entire FE community put on thier big boy pants and knock that FE chip off our shoulder. We have to stop the us versus them mentality. We are only hurting outselves. I heard it a hundred times last year. A boat is a boat. The nitro guys were great to me and my son all season. I learned allot from them and I did take a little good natured ribbing. But no more than anyone else. Many of them think nitro is on it's way out so lets give them a new option to continue racing.

Listen, I run with fuel guys all the time.

One of the 2 santioned race events that had electric & fuel classes (no mixing, that was not allowed) There were close calls of fist fights because of some of the nasty comments made by fuel racers towards the elctric racers and we weren't mixing any classes except OPEN classes with no power restrictions. They still complained (FUEL RACERS).

Chip on my shoulder, maybe but, it's far smaller than the one on some fuel racers shoulders...

I like running races with mixed power, just can;t stand the noise & eventually no one will stand the noise. It is getting harder to find water that will accommodate the NOISE.

Shop time....

[Chilli]

Unfortunately there are a few dinosaurs out there. Hopefully they will get with the program or they will soon be the ones running boats by themselves. Change never goes without a few bumps in the road.

Glad you've got a good bunch to race with.

I gotta tell you I love the smell of nitro. Reminds me of when I was a kid running a Cox string airplane.

[Brushless55]

it's interesting reading all the comments on this thread..
you really see the true charaters of some

[Diegoboy]

I gotta tell you I love the smell of nitro. Reminds me of when I was a kid running a Cox string airplane.

I had this one!

[carlcisneros]

Well, I am one of those folks that are starting to convert over to the quiet side of things as we
type our fingers here to death. I plan on keeping my CMB 21 nitro riggers, BUT I am in the process of CONVERTING my CMB 90 powered Insane Mono over to FE for the unlimited COMBINED nitro/FE mono class (I HOPE, I HOPE, I HOPE,,,,,,,,,,,,) this year.
Mike has been accepted with open arms in district 12 this last season and we all have had a great time. (even when his Aeromarine mono went POOOOOF one day at our lake here in the Centrevill area)
HE has come along way as far as driving is concerned (he was a bit shakey at first then found his niche and full speed ahead) and so has his son John. The 2 of them are great people to be around for sure.

True, the wording of the particular portion of the rule should be changed, but lets stop beating a dead horse ok?

Lets just all go out and have a great time running our boats what ever they may be powered by and just have fun doing it.

And I have also heard in the rumor mill that John Finch might be building an FE also. DON?

have a great one folks and get to building and looking forward to meeting new folks this coming season.

Carl

[Doug Smock]

True, the wording of the particular portion of the rule should be changed, but lets stop beating a dead horse ok?

Lets just all go out and have a great time running our boats what ever they may be powered by and just have fun doing it.

Carl

This is all pretty clear to those people that understand the point of the exercise.
Doug

[keithbradley]

From the outside looking in I honestly dont even see what the arguement is...if you want to race in that organization, do so... If you dont, dont.
This whole "de-tune" idea is not new to racing at all. Its been going on in almost every large sanctioned body of full scale racing for a long time.
When I raced with an IHRA pro mod team (drag racing), there was always a war going on between nitrous cars and supercharged cars. The nitrous cars were allowed more cubic inches and a lower weight requirement, but the supercharged cars kept getting faster. The guys who ran nitrous cars complained that it wasnt fair and they could not compete. The response from IHRA was to raise the minimum weight requirement for the s/c cars and lower it for the nitrous cars. Supercharged guys were furious, but the show went on (this happened over and over, back and forth).
Now, turbochargers have entered the class, and the supercharger guys have found themselves in the same spot the nitrous guys were...complaining how they cannot compete and it isnt fair...

If this were applied to RC boating, it wouldnt be a weight/cubic inch issue, it would more likely be a prop size limit. Something like nitro boats are allowed to run up to "xx" size prop, but FE boats are limited to a much smaller "xx" size prop.
The way I see it, they just decided to let the FE racers be responsible for themselves instead of choosing a limitation that might make it more difficult.

[HOTWATER]

Well, I can say that I had a blast running FE in the Dist. races last season. I met alot of very nice people including gas and nitro guys and ALL of them were very easy to get along with. I had only one class to run in last season but this year I will be running in three including P/B mono and if I need to "detune" I will...who cares!! ...all fun to me! If you worry too much about the rules and what is right or wrong about them it takes away from the fun...and the good times that everyone is out there for.

...that's all I will say on this topic........

Dist. 12 does rock!

-Kent

[Flying Scotsman]

I have been a racing fan of many endeavours and actually did a bit of rallying in Scotland and in my humble opinion they are the best race car drivers in the world... I was useless as a driver...the rules will always be bent by the best teams ..that is the nature of the beast.

Douggie

[highndry]

It's good to hear some FE guys are running harmoniously with nitro/gas guys.

[sailr]

We tried to hook up with a nitro/gas club locally. They raised so many fears about lipos catching on fire, etc. etc. that they really did everything they could to discourage us. It worked. We haven't gone back to them. Their loss. They need the members desperately.

[highndry]

I have numerous rants on this site re: nitro vs FE based on our efforts to combine. If the future is to combine , then rather than have to de-tune which goes against everyones basic instinct, then someone /governing body should step-up and define classes that offer parity. Such as, spec power in FE = stock A in nitro, or P power = b in nitro..just a thought