MHZ Mystic C5000 M Setup

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  • dropps
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 29

    #16
    even more pictures
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    • johnf
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Dec 2009
      • 1078

      #17
      Nice work. I LOVE that battery mounting idea!
      Catching Air!

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      • domp444
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 846

        #18
        Originally posted by dropps
        no, it does not appear bigger, it is bigger. That´s the mystic of my friend Jens Seidel.
        1,85m MHZ Mystic. using 3060 LMT motors und jeti spin 200 esc and 10s5p at the beginning.

        to be honest, i wouldn´t use the 1527. They have so much torque, you will get some problems with the flex cables. One of my friends tried these motors in the mystic and had a lot of broken flex cables.
        the 1521 are realy goog for that boot. 8s lipos would be too much weight.
        take the 1521 an 6s if you take the 1,5d with 1900 u/volt or take the 1521 1,0d and use 4s and for the realy realy fast setup 5s lipos.

        here are some pictures

        mfg der jens
        First off, thank you for all of the pictures! You have a beautiful boat, very well done.

        Which motor will help me achieve higher speeds in the long run? It seems like the 1,5d on 6s would be faster, am I right?

        All of your suggestions have been really helpful, and I am currently thinking of doing the following setup...

        2x Neu 1521 1,5d
        2x Hydra 240 HV
        2x 6s 5000mah 45-90c LiPos

        Another thing - I would go with the 240 HV ESC if it's necessary, but if I can use the 180 HV instead then I'll do it. Of course, if I'll get better performance with the 240 HV I'll go for it.

        Thanks for all the help!
        SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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        • dropps
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 29

          #19
          Originally posted by johnf
          Nice work. I LOVE that battery mounting idea!


          thx

          I was searching quite a long time. I found nothing that would fit....for that reason i had to make my own mounting system.
          I can adjust the lipos 3 cm in both directions and fix it with one screw only.


          best regards: jens

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          • dropps
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 29

            #20
            Originally posted by domp444
            First off, thank you for all of the pictures! You have a beautiful boat, very well done.

            Which motor will help me achieve higher speeds in the long run? It seems like the 1,5d on 6s would be faster, am I right?

            All of your suggestions have been really helpful, and I am currently thinking of doing the following setup...

            2x Neu 1521 1,5d
            2x Hydra 240 HV
            2x 6s 5000mah 45-90c LiPos

            Another thing - I would go with the 240 HV ESC if it's necessary, but if I can use the 180 HV instead then I'll do it. Of course, if I'll get better performance with the 240 HV I'll go for it.

            Thanks for all the help!
            The 1521 1,5d on 6s will give you a revolution speed of nearly 41000 per minute.
            If you take the 1521 1,0d on 4s it will be 41000 per minute too.
            On 5s it will be nearly 52000 per minute.

            The difference between the 1521 1,5d on 6s and 1521 1,0d on 4s is nearly zero.
            There is just the difference in the weigth. Both motors will fit perfectly in the mhz mystic.

            But keep in mind: If you go down with the number of lipos you use, you will go up with electric current. While I was testing different props on my mystic I installed a logger: Peaks up to 250 A and continuous current was sometimes up to 120 A.
            My advice: If you have the possibility: take the castle 240.
            Best regards: jens

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            • domp444
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 846

              #21
              Oh alright I see. So the boat would be faster on the 1521 1,0d on 5s? Since it'd be spinning 52000 rpm? Would that setup be hot?

              I also forgot to mention I would like to have run times of at least 5 minutes. I don't want to just go fast for 2 minutes and have to cool the motors/escs.

              I'll definitely take the Hydra 240HV now that you mentioned that.

              You've been really helpful and I think I'm going to go with your exact setup. It seems to be really good for me.
              SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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              • Alfa Spirit
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2009
                • 2131

                #22
                52000 RPM ?? 35000 to 40000 RPM is a maximum

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                • domp444
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 846

                  #23
                  That's what I was thinking, Alfa.
                  SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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                  • dropps
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 29

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Alfa Spirit
                    52000 RPM ?? 35000 to 40000 RPM is a maximum

                    why????
                    where is the problem going 52000 rpm???

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                    • domp444
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 846

                      #25
                      Haven't posted about this in a while.

                      I spoke with a friend, and he recommended the 1521 1y instead of the 1d.

                      So my new setup will be...

                      2x 1521 1y
                      2x Hydra 240HV
                      2x 6s 5000mah 45-90c LiPos

                      Anyone else have any comments about the setup?

                      I placed my order with MHZ yesterday, and I hope to hear back from Shirley soon.
                      SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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                      • dropps
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 29

                        #26
                        hey
                        with the 1521 1y you will reach something aout 34000 rpm idle speed ( i hope you understand what I try to say....)
                        This means that you will have something about 30-31000rpm load speed.
                        Well, that´s fine for going 100-120 km/h, depending on the props.
                        I always prefer more rpm.
                        I would take the 1521 1,5d on 6S
                        Props: x447
                        Speed 137 km/h (85 mp/h)
                        Current 120A

                        That´s what my eagle tree told me.....

                        best regards: jens

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                        • DISAR
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 1072

                          #27
                          Very good information and nice battery mounting idea - very nice.

                          A friend of mine has same boat, 130 kph = 80 mph with

                          1521 1.5d (1900kv)
                          6s
                          turnigy 180
                          445 props

                          same as dropps suggestion
                          Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
                          http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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                          • domp444
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 846

                            #28
                            Originally posted by dropps
                            hey
                            with the 1521 1y you will reach something aout 34000 rpm idle speed ( i hope you understand what I try to say....)
                            This means that you will have something about 30-31000rpm load speed.
                            Well, that´s fine for going 100-120 km/h, depending on the props.
                            I always prefer more rpm.
                            I would take the 1521 1,5d on 6S
                            Props: x447
                            Speed 137 km/h (85 mp/h)
                            Current 120A

                            That´s what my eagle tree told me.....

                            best regards: jens
                            I heard that the d series of motors make ESCs go
                            Haha, that's why I was going to use the y motor. I would hate to blow a 450 dollar ESC because of a motor.
                            I understand what your saying about the RPMs. The d motor would definitely increase my speed.

                            You mentioned before that your current sometimes bursted to 250a, right? I was thinking of doing the Hydra 180 HV, but I see that the 240 HV is necessary. Thanks for the help
                            SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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                            • domp444
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 846

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DISAR
                              Very good information and nice battery mounting idea - very nice.

                              A friend of mine has same boat, 130 kph = 80 mph with

                              1521 1.5d (1900kv)
                              6s
                              turnigy 180
                              445 props

                              same as dropps suggestion
                              Everyone's recommending these d motors, haha. He's getting away with a Turnigy 180?
                              SV27 w/ Ammo 2300 / Stock ESC || Pursuit w/ Leopard 4074 2200kv / SeaKing 120a ESC || MHZ Drambuie on Ice w/ 2x Schulze 4.160wk's / 2x Neu 2215 1.5y's

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                              • DINO7
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 162

                                #30


                                Alexandros boat...from rcfastboats.gr
                                H&M Intruder S twin Leopard 36/74/3270 @ 3S-HIFEI 200A
                                MHZ mystic 114-TP4050 5D-HIFEI 240A hv ESC- @ 2 x 5S
                                BANDIT S"love boat" LEHNER POWERED.. RCFASTBOATS.GR MINI COOPER CAT

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