I wish my Insane FE30 was this fast...

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  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #16
    " I need to know his setup, Exactly..."

    Ian, with all due respect , IMO that simply duplicating the powerplant of a well setup boat from a highly experienced veteran FE racer like Mark isn't the magic "silver bullet" to achieve similiar results. I've been with Mark, who forgets every day more about FE than I'll ever learn, while he invests considerable time and effort applying small, incremental changes in things like strut depth and angle, fin location, CG, prop fundamentals, rudder orientation, prop work and such. Even asking a top racer [which I'm NOT] about his setup parameters borders on a breach of good etiquette , if I may be as bold to state. Don't mean to ruffle your (or anyone's) feathers, but that's how it is from my point of view anyway. You know I'm there for you and will help anyway I can, but I gotta' tell it like it is.
    The 1527 is very likely overkill for the most part and requires careful consideration to things like current draw and heat. Driving any boat at higher speeds also has its downsides; a mishandling setup can cause all kinds of hazards, trust me. The 1515 1Y [or it's copies] is a very good motor to get you into the sixties with decent overall package reliability. Oddly enough, I have two 1515 1Y's each ready for FE 30 duty, but my FE 30 with the UL-1 motor AND speed control, carefully setup and with a nice prop goes 55 mph all day with nary a hiccup & I'm in a realm where I can drive it without fear of what might happen so it's likely to stay with these components and afford me the opportunity to have a ball racing P-Spec whenever I can.
    As a matter of fact, I play-raced Jan's identically set up mega-quick Dark Horse yesterday on the 1/6 mile oval and walked him in the straights and was way inside his boat in the turns until his wire drive let go - good fun ( Not for Jan) and I was in control all the time-NOT what would happen if I had a hotter setup.
    Just my 2 pesos; had to get this off my chest

    Cheers,
    Tony
    Last edited by properchopper; 10-03-2010, 01:47 AM.
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • Ub Hauled
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2007
      • 3031

      #17
      It sure was fun in the beginning... then my hull started flipping and had a broken wire drive to top it off... not mad about the hiccups, they eventually happen, but losing a good prop... that's where I draw the line... the Legg Monster took yet another prop of mine. I will have to look into getting a bigger hull as the speeds we are achieving these days even with the cheap UL-1 motors are more then a narrow 24.5" hull can take... it becomes more of a preoccupation if the hull will stay right side up then enjoying the ride.
      Tony, I will be back and have at it again...
      BTW, I will now finish my Vegas and we can have a bit of fun with them around the buoys.
      PS: Mark that thing is a bullet!!!!! I need to go to Joe's with you guys again... he's such a nice guy and great host!
      :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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      • electric
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2008
        • 1744

        #18
        Originally posted by Fluid
        The video with Tony very clearly states it is a 4S spec setup with UL-1 motor/ESC....relatively low power. The OP's video states in the intro it has a Neu 1527/1D motor and an x645/3 prop....it is a top-end power setup. The Kv of the motor (2300) is about the same as a 1515/1Y, but it has the torque to spin the very large prop without overheating. The model is very quick, though not the fastest P Sport Hydro I've ever seen. Still it demonstrates how well the FE-30 handles more power than it should be able to for its size. And there are a few other things done to the boat to help it work so well.....


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        Ray, sorry I missed the get together yesterday, to many obligations with soccer and basketball for the kids. Hope to get a test run with the 2s mono's today. I am also going to test out the Insane FE with a modded 447 prop on a Neu 1515. I would expect low 60's or so. I am beginning to think a really nicely modded 445 is the right all around prop. I have read that the 642 is working well for others to.

        For the people focused on top speed only, has anyone done 70mph yet with this boat. The great thing with this boat is that I have yet to see it "blow over" on a straight.

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #19
          Originally posted by electric
          Ray, sorry I missed the get together yesterday, to many obligations with soccer and basketball for the kids. Hope to get a test run with the 2s mono's today. I am also going to test out the Insane FE with a modded 447 prop on a Neu 1515. I would expect low 60's or so. I am beginning to think a really nicely modded 445 is the right all around prop. I have read that the 642 is working well for others to.

          For the people focused on top speed only, has anyone done 70mph yet with this boat. The great thing with this boat is that I have yet to see it "blow over" on a straight.
          right on!
          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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          • dana
            Banned
            • Mar 2010
            • 3573

            #20
            man every time i watch this vid is like the first time. this thing is just awesome.... i love the sound of the hull gliding over the ripples in the water. sweeet

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            • BakedMopar
              No Mo Slipah
              • Sep 2009
              • 1679

              #21
              There's two types of people in every hobby. Assemblers and builders. It is nice to get a baseline but testing Is the only to gain anything.
              If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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              • britscoot
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 656

                #22
                Sorry Tony.

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                • MarkF
                  dinogylipos.com
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 979

                  #23
                  I don't mind people asking what I run. If I don't want someone to know what I'm running then I'll just leave that part out. In that video everything was stock hardware running the 1527 1d, thunderpower 45c lipos and a 645 prop. Nothing special really except the best equipment and no cheap stuff. I am now running a new turn fin I got from Alan N and a turn fin bracket a friend made for me that gets the new turn fin back behind the cg. Also a new prop and the boat is working even better. I'll post video when I can. The trick with this boat is since it runs so freely you can get away with props that have been pitched up. I'm now running a 1450 prop with 4" of pitch in the cup. These are my best tips for running this boat.

                  Mark
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                  • britscoot
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 656

                    #24
                    I really appreciate your tips Mark!

                    I am the only guy at the lake running the FE30 and its getting a lot of attention.
                    I just want to represent to the fullest.

                    gotta run i think i hear Tony lol............................................... ...............................................

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                    • electric
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2008
                      • 1744

                      #25
                      I took my FE out today after I got done running our new 2s mono's with the kids. This is in a smaller pond, but I ran the Insane anyway. Wow. that boat is crazy fast and in a small pond my nerves could only take it for about 8 or so laps and then I brought it in before I hit something. I will check out the data tonight, but it was just about all turn with this small pond so I reallly did not get going to fast. I think the it showed like 48mph or something, but in a small pond it feels like 100mph..chuckle.

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                      • Shooter
                        Team Mojo
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 2558

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ub Hauled
                        I will have to look into getting a bigger hull as the speeds we are achieving these days even with the cheap UL-1 motors are more then a narrow 24.5" hull can take... it becomes more of a preoccupation if the hull will stay right side up then enjoying the ride.
                        I agree! That's why I built this! ....have to FFWD to the end.

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Shooter
                          I agree! That's why I built this! ....have to FFWD to the end.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7jWr7iYC4
                          What the?
                          how the?
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • Diesel6401
                            Memento Vivere
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4204

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Shooter
                            I agree! That's why I built this! ....have to FFWD to the end.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7jWr7iYC4
                            Now that's cool as hell. AWESOME.

                            Is their a little jet drive or something in the exhaust area of the cowling?
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                            "It is easier to be wise for others than for ourselves"

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                            • properchopper
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 6968

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Shooter
                              I agree! That's why I built this! ....have to FFWD to the end.

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7jWr7iYC4
                              Bro, you got my vote for the coolest, most creative FE feature of 2010 !

                              Hmmm...a new racing class : three laps right-side-up & 3 laps on the aux motor
                              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                              • driftah
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 760

                                #30
                                genius bro hats off,make me one for my airborne sv27 lol jk.

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