Seems "G-Freak" has Freaked Out

[RCKong]

We should have busted on these A-Hole's a while back and put them in their place. This has been a long time coming.
They are already changing their prices because of this thread...
Without this thread they would continue to do business as usual. People interested in FE boating don't deserve this.
They are being driven away from the hobby because of their outrageous business practice. They are SHADY at best and it is not hard to see. I know this first hand, as I know someone who deals with them, and paid $199 for a T180. It made me sick and it is pitifull... I don't want any body interested in FE boating being ripped off by these punks in Orlando..It's not cool at all.

RCKONG

[scoota]

its funny cause i just read a thread where someone on here tried to run the new proboat geico and the thing broke on the first run.... but im sure everyone on here have boats that run perfect all the time... christ

Are you a mate of the Freaks ? thats twice you have sort of stuck up for them !!!

[FighterCat57]

ya'll need to back up and let gspot do his juicy juice.

That teenage tart with the schnoz in the tub is a riot.

[Brushless55]

its funny cause i just read a thread where someone on here tried to run the new proboat geico and the thing broke on the first run.... but im sure everyone on here have boats that run perfect all the time... christ

and whats funny is whoever owns Gfreaks is a freak himself
Oh I get it... the site is named after the owner

[Brushless55]

We should have busted on these A-Hole's a while back and put them in their place. This has been a long time coming.
They are already changing their prices because of this thread...
Without this thread they would continue to do business as usual. People interested in FE boating don't deserve this.
They are being driven away from the hobby because of their outrageous business practice. They are SHADY at best and it is not hard to see. I know this first hand, as I know someone who deals with them, and paid $199 for a T180. It made me sick and it is pitifull... I don't want any body interested in FE boating being ripped off by these punks in Orlando..It's not cool at all.

RCKONG

WORD!

[wizard122]

I just went through all the vids on there site and they must think that we all smoke crack. They take shots at every major player in the FE hobby I can't see any reason to do any business with them at all.

P.S. don't they know that Aeromarine Laminates moved to Delaware?

[scoota]

Oh I bet the moron has himself and his one buddy on this site watching what we say about him and the the real wisdom on this site about FE boats

MMM, i wounder who that one buddy is ? LOL

[properchopper]

While it hurts my heart to think that many well-intentioned, naive and gullible new boaters may be sucked in by these semi-literate hustlers, not much can be done besides our indignant venting. Unless of course a write-in campaign to G-Fraud's local BBB or to all the forums, which probably aren't read by the potential clients until it's too late happens, which really won't do much as the only real crime committed is that of extreme unethicalness. Hype is not uncommon in mass merchandising ( not that I'm excusing it)- witness Traxxas describing their as yet-unreleased Titan being described as "Race Ready"

On the bright side, think how lucky we all are to have OSE as our "Gold Standard" shopping experience [ which makes the G-Freak idiots pale all the more in comparison]

I'm done with thinking about these creeps, or as the old saying goes : " The more you wrestle with a turd, the more you get covered with s**t"

[domwilson]

I'm all for the entrepreneurial spirit of starting a business and turning a profit. The market, production costs, adminstrative, etc. determine the final price of a product. At the same time you have to be competitive and entice potential new and returning customers. There is nothing wrong with "re-branding" a product. Radio Shack and RCA have done it for years. However, your final price should be inline with your closest competition. If your rebranded product is better, then you state why and the value you offer. Your profits will come thru via increased sales. You limit your market penetration if you are not competitive in price and service. New businesses typically sell their products at a lower price than their competition to generate a customer base. Bashing your competition is not only a bad business move but can land you in court if your statements are misleading.
Maybe G-freak should try an "Introductory Sale" to generate a customer base rather than insulting the very market they are catering to. Just my thoughts....

[properchopper]

I'm all for the entrepreneurial spirit of starting a business and turning a profit. The market, production costs, adminstrative, etc. determine the final price of a product. At the same time you have to be competitive and entice potential new and returning customers. There is nothing wrong with "re-branding" a product. Radio Shack and RCA have done it for years. However, your final price should be inline with your closest competition. If your rebranded product is better, then you state why and the value you offer. Your profits will come thru via increased sales. You limit your market penetration if you are not competitive in price and service. New businesses typically sell their products at a lower price than their competition to generate a customer base. Bashing your competition is not only a bad business move but can land you in court if your statements are misleading.
Maybe G-freak should try an "Introductory Sale" to generate a customer base rather than insulting the very market they are catering to. Just my thoughts....

Thanks, Dom - well said - I wish I could be that clear and unemotional !

[Steven Vaccaro]

Ok, I'll have another go at it.

What is the web? An source for users to find information.
How many people with half a brain just go and find one site and drop $500 on something?
If someone does drop $500 on something with one click and without looking at other options there are two scenarios that quickly come to mind, either they can well afford to be a "impulsive" shopper or just plain naive.

I guess I'm just not as compassionate as you guys for someone that doesn't do their research on something that cost so much money.

[BakedMopar]

Ok, I'll have another go at it.

What is the web? An source for users to find information.
How many people with half a brain just go and find one site and drop $500 on something?
If someone does drop $500 on something with one click and without looking at other options there are two scenarios that quickly come to mind, either they can well afford to be a "impulsive" shopper or just plain naive.

I guess I'm just not as compassionate as you guys for someone that doesn't do their research on something that cost so much money.

100%

This happens not only in a hobby but in everyday life. From things like a convenient store to a gas station and so on. I don't like their attitude more than their bad business etiquette.

[Steven Vaccaro]

But the point is we live in a country were he could start and run the business in any way he so pleases.

Another example.
My driveway is being paved at this very moment. One guy wanted $12,000 to do the job. I spoke to a friend who just had his done and was very happy with the results and work. His guy is doing his job for $3,500.

[properchopper]

Ok, I'll have another go at it.

What is the web? An source for users to find information.
How many people with half a brain just go and find one site and drop $500 on something?
If someone does drop $500 on something with one click and without looking at other options there are two scenarios that quickly come to mind, either they can well afford to be a "impulsive" shopper or just plain naive.

I guess I'm just not as compassionate as you guys for someone that doesn't do their research on something that cost so much money.

Steven, I'm with you on that - myself now being a compulsive "over-researcher" when it comes to buying anything. But consider the target demographic of these folks- their name alone spells that out. Add to that their exagerrated claims and competition-bashing and it has to get them some business-albeit from a rather unsophisticated audience. The market is flooded with ridiculous products targeting such folks, from "double your mileage" engine gismos to useless health care products - [you should see , as a "Senior Citizen" the stuff that I get in the mail ]
It's a shame that this condition exists, but it happens and is a sad reality. I just hope that these new boaters eventually find their way to your door and learn, perhaps the hard way, to do more of the research that you speak of. The path to enlightenment is sometimes a costly one, as I myself found out over the years!

[Steven Vaccaro]

Steven, I'm with you on that - myself now being a compulsive "over-researcher" when it comes to buying anything. But consider the target demographic of these folks- their name alone spells that out. Add to that their exagerrated claims and competition-bashing and it has to get them some business-albeit from a rather unsophisticated audience. The market is flooded with ridiculous products targeting these people, from "double your mileage" engine gismos to useless health care products - [you should see , as a "Senior Citizen" the stuff that I get in the mail ]
It's a shame that this condition exists, but it happens and is a sad reality. I just hope that these new boaters eventually find their way to your door and learn, perhaps the hard way, to do more of the research that you speak of. The path to enlightenment is sometimes a costly one, as I myself found out over the years!

I get where you are coming from believe me. I get emails from those people that bought those ndq eBay boats for $50 that are supposed to go 30mph, but in reality only go about 10mph. They want to make them go faster. I do feel a bit bad for them.