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  • splashfast
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 11

    #1

    motors help needed !

    ok this is the first time ive built anything electric powered allways had nitro

    ive been looking at motors for days now and dont have a clue what im looking at
    what do all those numbers mean etc
    is there a thread on this forum that explains any of this ??

    am i looking for revs or voltage or something else ?
    also are brushless motors that are sold for cars etc any good for boats ? they seem to be about the same price but thought it best to check first ?

    many thanks
    darren
  • scoota
    FE DOWN UNDER
    • Dec 2008
    • 409

    #2
    all those numbers mean ? lets say your looking at a Leopard 4074 - 2200 kv motor

    the 40 = 40mm dia
    the 74 = 74 mm long
    the 2200KV means for every volt you apply to the motor it will spin at 2200 RPM

    lets say your going to run 4s set up which = 14.8 Volts times that by the KV of the motor , which in this case would be 14.8 volts x 2200kv = 32,560 total rpm the motor will be putting out , the more volts you apply the more RPM the motor will put out , the motors do have a Max volts you can run them on ..

    IF you let us know what type of boat you want to build we can help a bit better , with the size of MOTOR , KV ,ESC & how many cells to run ....

    Jason
    UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
    SV27- with UL1 running gear
    33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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    • splashfast
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 11

      #3
      Thanks jason its a 42 inch racing catamaran im hoping to build it with a single motor setup i spoke to allan at aztec and he has pointed me in the right direction for the hardware etc but ive been looking at motors for days now and esc and im totally lost

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      • splashfast
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 11

        #4
        ok i looked at a feigao 540 xl 8 motor that was rated at 2084 per volt

        so if i use two lipo 2s 2500 7.4 v that would give me 30843.2 revs per volt ???

        i get this part now but the motors stats say that at 25c 62a and 40c 100a

        im going to guess that means at a temp of 25c the max amps it can take is 62 ?
        and at 40c it can take 100amps ? is this correct or am i way off the mark ?

        many thanks
        darren

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        • scoota
          FE DOWN UNDER
          • Dec 2008
          • 409

          #5
          Maybe the Leopard 5692 /1340KV on 6s with a seaking 180amp ESC or swordfish 240 amp ESC .

          There are a lot of guys on here that have built big cats, that im sure will post some suggestions ...

          http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=leo-5692

          http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...ef-sword-240hv
          UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
          SV27- with UL1 running gear
          33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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          • sailr
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 6927

            #6
            That 540 motor is way too small for the big hull you have. Scoota's suggestion is a good one.
            Mini Cat Racing USA
            www.minicatracingusa.com

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            • scoota
              FE DOWN UNDER
              • Dec 2008
              • 409

              #7
              you want to get 35c /5000+ mah lipos for good discharge & run times ....
              UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
              SV27- with UL1 running gear
              33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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              • splashfast
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 11

                #8
                ok thanks guys im thinking that leapord motor looks the best option so far was looking at sourcing one in the uk but no joy as of yet

                also i found this while looking what do you guys think ??

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                • scoota
                  FE DOWN UNDER
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 409

                  #9
                  the KV is way to low on that motor & outrunner motors are hard to keep cool inside a hull , even with a water cooled mount.. you need to aim for 25,000 to 35,000 rpm range for good speeds , i would stick to an inrunner motor as you can run a water jacket on them for better cooling ..
                  UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
                  SV27- with UL1 running gear
                  33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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                  • scoota
                    FE DOWN UNDER
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 409

                    #10
                    Found this guy , but he is way too dear , i would ship one from OSE ...

                    UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
                    SV27- with UL1 running gear
                    33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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                    • splashfast
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 11

                      #11
                      yeah i found his ad too lol yes i think the best option would be to order from ose

                      apart from the kv i should be looking for 25,000 to 35,000 rpm to give me a good turn of speed for this size boat

                      thanks you so much for your help scoota things are much clearer now about motors etc
                      now i just need to get my head around all this batt speak lol but ill save that for another thread want to get my hardware and motors/mounts etc fitted then ill be looking at esc,s and batt etc

                      many thanks you scoota

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                      • Diesel6401
                        Memento Vivere
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4204

                        #12
                        What about a Leopard 4082 with a trusty Seaking 180 on 5s for sport, 6s for . He would be able to use a standard leopard cooling jacket & mount. JMO
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                        • scoota
                          FE DOWN UNDER
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 409

                          #13
                          Just keep in mind , the big Leopard motors have a 30mm between the mounting screws , most standard motor mounts have a 25mm spacing , something to look at when ordering a mount for your boat ....
                          UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
                          SV27- with UL1 running gear
                          33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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                          • splashfast
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 11

                            #14
                            thanks guys those leopard motors look the mutts

                            do you think it would be over kill to stick two of them in ?? and on that note if i did decide to get two would that mean i need an esc and seperate lipos for each motor or do you make them share ?? sorry for asking so many noobish questions but i really do know diddly squat about the boat scene and electric motors

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                            • scoota
                              FE DOWN UNDER
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 409

                              #15
                              Originally posted by splashfast
                              thanks guys those leopard motors look the mutts

                              do you think it would be over kill to stick two of them in ?? and on that note if i did decide to get two would that mean i need an esc and seperate lipos for each motor or do you make them share ?? sorry for asking so many noobish questions but i really do know diddly squat about the boat scene and electric motors
                              That big Leopard motor is rated at 4 Horse Power that is plenty for your hull , if you went twins you would have to look at smaller motors , with higher KV rating...
                              UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
                              SV27- with UL1 running gear
                              33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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