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  • BILL OXIDEAN
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 1494

    #1

    Wild super vee

    I just bought an SV27r and its ALL OVER the place, andy setup suggestions?? Battery placement and trim tabs don't help..
  • forescott
    Hopelessly Addicted to RC
    • Nov 2009
    • 2686

    #2
    Sorry for the thread-bust Bill, but when are we gonna see that ekos with the 540's finished. Looks like you've been havin fun with that jet boat!

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    • BILL OXIDEAN
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 1494

      #3
      Originally posted by forescott
      Sorry for the thread-bust Bill, but when are we gonna see that ekos with the 540's finished. Looks like you've been havin fun with that jet boat!

      I was waiting on props. Venom sent them out today..

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      • m4a1usr
        Fast Electric Addict
        • Nov 2009
        • 2038

        #4
        Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
        I just bought an SV27r and its ALL OVER the place, andy setup suggestions?? Battery placement and trim tabs don't help..
        What does "All over the place" mean? We all know you know how to drive. Been following you now for years so your no novice. Unstable in a straight line? Have you done the basic setup for an SV27? Neutral trim tabs/ adjusted flat to bottom. Stinger at neutral to the last 4 or 5 inches of the bottom. Rudder face parallel to transom angle? With the CG set right you should be running slightly wet but stable in steering and stability.

        I have heard thru the grapevine the 2.4g radio system is very sensitive to rudder input. Is there a steering adjustment for this?

        John
        Change is the one Constant

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        • BILL OXIDEAN
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 1494

          #5
          Originally posted by m4a1usr
          What does "All over the place" mean? We all know you know how to drive. Been following you now for years so your no novice. Unstable in a straight line? Have you done the basic setup for an SV27? Neutral trim tabs/ adjusted flat to bottom. Stinger at neutral to the last 4 or 5 inches of the bottom. Rudder face parallel to transom angle? With the CG set right you should be running slightly wet but stable in steering and stability.

          I have heard thru the grapevine the 2.4g radio system is very sensitive to rudder input. Is there a steering adjustment for this?

          John
          I never tried the tatic.. I immediately installed a hot Airtronics system..
          Its not the steering or throttle input, its just ultra flighty.

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          • ozboater
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 415

            #6
            interesting thread.......

            actually the trim tabs and battery placement make a huge difference to the set up and run... i d suggest looking at the sv27 forum... tons of info there... i also have trouble believing that a seasoned racer like yourself can get this thing to go... sure it s flighty... over 40 mph... the hull isn t designed to go 50+... it s a RTR... a relative newby like myself got this thing (orig sv27) flying with 12 matched nimh cells / 42 55 grim prop or 440/3 / neutral strut / trim tabs adjusted according to wind chop or wakes... ran real well, even in a smallish 300 acre lake with wakes / wind chop... for sure it s sensitive in wide open turns but it s a fairly shallow v with a large freeboard... go figure...

            i dunno, maybe it s a thing with you supported / sponsored guys.... love hate relationship - promote the product ??? darin gets on here and worships spektrum... you get on here and diss aquacraft ??grim gets on here and plugs aq... jt is the only impartial one who doesn t kiss sponsor a$$... i ve had a few pints of truth serum and i ll probabally get flamed for this but it all seems a little odd...

            not trying to be a complete pr1ck or anything but it just makes me wonder...

            if it makes any difference i hate my dx 2.0 and am about to buy a 3x... the ekos, no thanks... id buy a geico and make darin happy ... not to worry my df29 from steve arrives tomorrow

            andym / ozzie crawl et al - i may need some aussie back up here... may get hot in here soon...

            cheers

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            • Darin Jordan
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 8335

              #7
              Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
              I never tried the tatic.. I immediately installed a hot Airtronics system..
              Its not the steering or throttle input, its just ultra flighty.
              Bill,

              First, forget what you think you know about battery location... V your packs so they basically touch in front of the motor. Some guys I know actually just run a single 5000 or ?? pack in front of the motor. You may lose a tad of top speed, but the boat will handle MUCH better if you keep the weight centered, and low in the boat.

              Second, add some training wheels to the inside corners of the trim tabs. Bend them down about 45-degrees, about 1/4" or so in. In other words, bend the inside corners down.

              Third, you can lose the radio box lid to take a tad bit of weight off.

              Forth, block sand the bottom to get it FLAT! It's likely no flat. Blueprint it, and scuff up the bottom.

              Set the strut neutral, but make sure you use the keel to measure it to, and not the transom. The transom is't 90-degrees to the keel.

              I tuck the rudder up under just a LITTLE bit.

              It'll handle really well once dialed (well for an SV, that is).

              Anything more than a 42x55 prop (the legal Spec SV27 prop) and you are on your own. Hull just isn't made to go much over the speeds you'll get in spec trim.

              Those are my tips... Now... go get it ready!
              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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              • BILL OXIDEAN
                Banned
                • Sep 2008
                • 1494

                #8
                Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                Bill,

                First, forget what you think you know about battery location... V your packs so they basically touch in front of the motor. Some guys I know actually just run a single 5000 or ?? pack in front of the motor. You may lose a tad of top speed, but the boat will handle MUCH better if you keep the weight centered, and low in the boat.

                Second, add some training wheels to the inside corners of the trim tabs. Bend them down about 45-degrees, about 1/4" or so in. In other words, bend the inside corners down.

                Third, you can lose the radio box lid to take a tad bit of weight off.

                Forth, block sand the bottom to get it FLAT! It's likely no flat. Blueprint it, and scuff up the bottom.

                Set the strut neutral, but make sure you use the keel to measure it to, and not the transom. The transom is't 90-degrees to the keel.

                I tuck the rudder up under just a LITTLE bit.

                It'll handle really well once dialed (well for an SV, that is).

                Anything more than a 42x55 prop (the legal Spec SV27 prop) and you are on your own. Hull just isn't made to go much over the speeds you'll get in spec trim.

                Those are my tips... Now... go get it ready!
                Thanx Darin!
                I'm sure this info will be quite helpful..

                The centered pack sounds right. It was chine walking.

                The one I borrowed at last year's nats ran fine..

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                • Checkmateguy01
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 376

                  #9
                  I have to disagree with "tuck the rudder under", mine was set that way but one day i hit something and it kicked the rudder out, i left it that way becuase it's handled better ever since!! Cornering seems to be much more stable. I run my strut at 0* and my adjustable tabs just slightly under neutral, the boat rides really well at speed with rudder kicked out. I run a set of 4600 nimh's, i've never gps'd it but it's quick, no doubt about that!! My SV27 is all stock except for the metal Grim Racer prop, had it for 2 years now, still running good!! I really love that little boat, i've had big nitro boats and really fast nitro riggers, but i think i have more fun running the SV27 than just about any of the many nitro boats i've had!

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                  • Doby
                    KANADA RULES!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 7280

                    #10
                    I run mine with the batteries in the "V" formation in front of the motor and it makes a world of difference......like Darin stated, a bit of loss in the top speed but much more civilized in handeling.
                    Grand River Marine Modellers
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                    • Darin Jordan
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8335

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Checkmateguy01
                      I have to disagree with "tuck the rudder under", mine was set that way but one day i hit something and it kicked the rudder out, i left it that way becuase it's handled better ever since!!
                      I actually agree with that... Looked at mine last night and it's kicked back slightly as well.

                      Scratch that part, Bill... reverse it...

                      Here Bill.... here are the sketches I made up awhile ago and posted in a previous thread....
                      Attached Files
                      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                      • BILL OXIDEAN
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1494

                        #12
                        This is great! I knew my fellow pirates would assist!
                        Any more input will be great!

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                        • Darin Jordan
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8335

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                          Any more input will be great!
                          Use good cells, and drive it like you stole it! They are actually VERY easy to drive once you get them setup.

                          Like was mentioned, you CAN make it faster by moving the batteries back, but in race water, you'll be living on borrowed time, ESPECIALLY at an event like the Nats where there will be the REALLY good drivers, all viaing for the same water!
                          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                          • BILL OXIDEAN
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1494

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                            Use good cells, and drive it like you stole it! They are actually VERY easy to drive once you get them setup.

                            Like was mentioned, you CAN make it faster by moving the batteries back, but in race water, you'll be living on borrowed time, ESPECIALLY at an event like the Nats where there will be the REALLY good drivers, all viaing for the same water!
                            Hey bud, i just got back from the pond. Tried everything you said minus the training wheels and it was MUCH better.

                            Second run, i changed the battery placement and spiral city again..
                            I guess i need to find that sweet spot any more info will be appreciated..

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                              Hey bud, i just got back from the pond. Tried everything you said minus the training wheels and it was MUCH better.

                              Second run, i changed the battery placement and spiral city again..
                              I guess i need to find that sweet spot any more info will be appreciated..
                              Training Wheels, dude... Gotta have them!

                              Will you scrub a little speed... YUP... Will the boat be faster AROUND the course... YUP!!

                              Let me put it this way... My 10-year old can run mine all alone with 5 other boats on the course... and does quite well...

                              You can do it, buddy... Want me to get him to give you some driving lessons??

                              Or, you can just listen to his setup guy...


                              Here... past testimony... : http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/for...raining+Wheels
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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