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  • 785boats
    Wet Track Racing
    • Nov 2008
    • 3169

    #1

    Speed comparison

    Would any of you racers out there be able to advise me on the average speeds of a P class 4s mono and a .21 nitro class mono, under competition oval racing conditions please. Just interested to know what the target is if a P spec 4s mono were to run with the .21 nitro boats. My rather poor & limited search skills can't find anything.
    Cheers.
    Paul.
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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #2
    Originally posted by 785boats
    Would any of you racers out there be able to advise me on the average speeds of a P class 4s mono and a .21 nitro class mono, under competition oval racing conditions please. Just interested to know what the target is if a P spec 4s mono were to run with the .21 nitro boats. My rather poor & limited search skills can't find anything.
    Cheers.
    Paul.
    The only "spec" class we have for Mono is the P-Limited Offshore. My 26" Dark Horse Mono does around 40-45mph in race trim... though during a race, I doubt it gets there much.

    Seeing the .21 Monos run... I don't think a spec boat would have any trouble keeping up with them...
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • 785boats
      Wet Track Racing
      • Nov 2008
      • 3169

      #3
      Thanks for that Darin
      Maybe I shouldn't have used the word Spec as the motors in our boats are the 8, 9Xl type, with a Neu 2200kv in there And they are running in the high 40's.
      Just not sure what speeds the .21 nitros are doing.
      Thanks again,
      Paul.
      Last edited by 785boats; 07-13-2010, 04:50 PM.
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      • D. Newland
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2007
        • 1030

        #4
        I've got a few nationally recognized nitro guys in my club, and I don't think I'd want anything less than a full on P mono to run against their .21 monos.

        It's strange, but I feel we've got equal performance with P-Limited OPC against A OPC, P-Limited Hydro against A Hydro, but I'm just not convinced yet that a P-Limited mono is a good match for an A mono. Not sure why I feel that way, but I do!

        However, even if an A mono is faster than a P-Limited mono, the FE version will be much more consistent on the water round after round. That's where the true advantage is, hands down.

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #5
          Originally posted by D. Newland
          I've got a few nationally recognized nitro guys in my club, and I don't think I'd want anything less than a full on P mono to run against their .21 monos.

          It's strange, but I feel we've got equal performance with P-Limited OPC against A OPC, P-Limited Hydro against A Hydro, but I'm just not convinced yet that a P-Limited mono is a good match for an A mono. Not sure why I feel that way, but I do!

          However, even if an A mono is faster than a P-Limited mono, the FE version will be much more consistent on the water round after round. That's where the true advantage is, hands down.
          You are likely right, David... I admit I've never seen a "fast" A-Mono...
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • 785boats
            Wet Track Racing
            • Nov 2008
            • 3169

            #6
            So how do I find out the actual speed of the .21 Mono class?
            Thanks.
            Paul.
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            • RaceMechaniX
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 2821

              #7
              I'll chime in here as I have at least two of the three set-ups. My A mono is not the fastest, but its pretty respectable when it's running at its best level. My P mono is very fast and will outrun my A mono any day of the week. A P spec mono may be close to my A mono if it were a lightweight set-up.

              There are a couple of good indicators although they represent very high levels of set-up. See the NAMBA records below.

              NAMBA 2-lap:

              P mono: 26.16 sec (a very hot set-up)
              A mono: 27.56 sec (a very well dialed in seaducer)

              NAMBA 6-lap heat race:
              A mono: 96 seconds (estimated as the current record is open)
              P mono: 100 seconds (This probably represents a race with several boats running or several boats dead and having to drive around them)

              To a lesser extent you can look at the SAW records, but electics have a clear advantage here that does not transfer over to heat racing.

              SAW Records:

              A mono: 57.6 mph ( this a special SAW only mono)
              P mono: 67.7 mph

              21 mono's vary quite a bit in speed depending on the set-up. Normally I would say a P mono is close to a good A mono assuming a moderate power level in the p mono.

              My guess is that good A mono's run around 45-50 mph.

              Tyler
              Tyler Garrard
              NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
              T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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              • 785boats
                Wet Track Racing
                • Nov 2008
                • 3169

                #8
                Thanks Tyler.
                Sounds good then. That's the sort of speed I was hoping for.
                Paul.
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