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  • C.Smock
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 213

    #1

    Neu vs. "cheap"

    Neu motors are def worth the money as far as quality goes, i have never had a problem with them. But at the same time people saying they cant afford a neu motor to be competitive in classes. That isnt a fair statement. In valdosta a couple of weeks back both the P and Q tunnel record were set with a Nemises motor both i do believe 65++. I had a Feiago motor in my N2 mono and did 52+. So saying you have to have a Neu motor to SAW is a false statement.

    If you take the time to tweak your boat and find the right prop it is able to go fast with less money. There is nothing wrong with Feiago or Nemises motors. I run them as well as Neu's.
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  • Mich. Maniac
    Banned
    • Apr 2007
    • 1384

    #2
    Could someone Please go into a little more description on application for the Neu motors. The only way I can decide is by going back and forth matching can size to Feigao and winds. say 8xl Feigao to 1515 1.5DNeu. is that how it should be done. I realize these motors "Neu" are balanced better and more efficiant so I would like to run a couple and spend the xtra to just do it right and once.

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    • properchopper
      • Apr 2007
      • 6968

      #3
      re :

      An 8XL has a 2084 KV rating ; a 1515 1.5D has a 2700 KV rating. One could match the KV rating but It's my understanding that NEU's of the same [or similar] KV have more torque and watt output for the KV than Feigao motors to allow you to swing a bigger prop. hence more thrust/speed. The NEU's have two basic can lengths; 1515 series is 2.7", and the 1521's are 3.0". Kind of like 540L and 540XL. The longer motors have more torque per KV but draw more amps.
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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #4
        Guys... I'll try to put something together tomorrow and post it concerning Neu Motor selection and how they might "compare" to other motors... You CAN'T match KV... two completely different leagues... But one can win races with either... The Black one just makes it a LOT easier...

        I sent Steven a list of popular motors per application... I'll try to include that... All based on the last two years of racing with some of the best in the hobby who have helped to guide me down the path to better understanding... I'll try to do my part as well...

        More to come...
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        • Rc1racing
          Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 58

          #5
          Casey your boat was fast on that Nemises. You would have broke the old record with it. I think. If I didn't beat you to it. But maybe I should have waited to the last day to set that and I might still have it. LOL
          You can't solder bullets with a hammerhead tip.
          Just thought I would throw that in there. You know what I mean. :D
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          • ReddyWatts
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 1711

            #6
            Neu vs. "cheap"

            Cheap sounds like junk.

            I think it should have been titled "Neu vs Economicle", since these motors are setting records with less initial investment.

            No offense intended.
            Last edited by ReddyWatts; 09-25-2007, 02:17 AM.
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            • C.Smock
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 213

              #7
              i wasnt saying they where cheap... i dint mean anything other than the price was cheap.

              i was stating the same thing people where in the neu water jacket thread and trying to show that just becaue you cant afford a neu doesnt mean you ant go fas with less money ("Cheap"). see what im saying?
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              • C.Smock
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 213

                #8
                Originally posted by Rc1racing
                Casey your boat was fast on that Nemises. You would have broke the old record with it. I think. If I didn't beat you to it. But maybe I should have waited to the last day to set that and I might still have it. LOL
                You can't solder bullets with a hammerhead tip.
                Just thought I would throw that in there. You know what I mean. :D
                haha...i can solder bullets with a hammer head tip, thats all i solder them with.... but FYI... it cant be done...lol

                i was running a Feigao john... pay attention...lol
                Last edited by C.Smock; 09-25-2007, 08:05 AM. Reason: spelling error
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                • hkusp45
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 299

                  #9
                  If you cant afford a NEU motor save your money till you can!! They are worth every penny!!
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                  • Rc1racing
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 58

                    #10
                    Originally posted by C.Smock
                    haha...i can solder bullets with a hammer head tip, thats all i solder them with.... but FYI... it cant be done...lol

                    i was running a Feigao john... pay attention...lol
                    That's right, it was late. But, I will pay more attention the next time.
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                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #11
                      Cheap sounds like junk.

                      I think it should have been titled "Neu vs Economicle", since these motors are setting records with less initial investment.



                      How about "less expensive", Compared to the Neu motors, they are "cheap". LOL
                      BTW it's "economical" since we're splitting hairs.

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8335

                        #12
                        Originally posted by D.Smock
                        BTW it's "economical" since we're splitting hairs.

                        Doug

                        You by 'em books... and send 'em to school...

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                        • ReddyWatts
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                          You by 'em books... and send 'em to school...




                          DJ it is "BUY" not "by"

                          LOL!!!

                          You guys are killing me.

                          I was just trying to clarify that the Fiegao motors that Steven sells are not junk.
                          Last edited by ReddyWatts; 09-25-2007, 09:37 AM.
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                          • Rc1racing
                            Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hkusp45
                            If you cant afford a NEU motor save your money till you can!! They are worth every penny!!


                            They are the one of the best. I went through several cheap motors when I was racing cars, and first got my boats. They just wouldn't hold up. Now that I have ran the Neus in my boats I won't go back. I have 3 Neus and a Lehner, and 2 more Neus on the way. All are great motors. After the abuse I put that one through in Valdosta, I don't think the cheap motors would have held up.

                            But at the same time I saw Doug's Neu come apart in Valdosta. That was strange. The end bell fell off, even with a thrust bearing. Did you get it fixed? This is the only problem I have personally seen with a Neu though. I can't say that for the cheap motors. I have seen them come apart countless times both mine and friends' motors.
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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8718

                              #15
                              Feigao motors fit a segment of the population that doesnt want to buy a $200- $400 motor.

                              I have feigao motors in my boats that have lasted YEARS. I dont push them past what their limits are. If your feigao motors are coming apart your pulling to many amps or to high of a rpm. Plain and simple.

                              Lets head back to a topic that's more constructive and not destructive to the forum. Remember to each his own.

                              Casey said it right. "If you take the time to tweak your boat and find the right prop it is able to go fast with less money." No one knows this better than Dick Crowe! He could race a paddle boat and be competitive. And to top it off he's a great guy. Maybe Darin can coax him to join the board?
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