Mono Rudder Placement - Why the Offset??

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  • tharmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 342

    #16
    Seems the Unlimited Hydros (who turn left) have the rudder on both sides. I think that having the rudder on the inside would make it more likely to leave the water if the boat lifts the inside sponson.
    -t

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    • FastVee
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 649

      #17
      Need help with my 57" apache project.

      Will have twin motors and struts. -But I want to use only one rudder and put it to the center of the transom

      It will be for sport/wave bashing, not racing.

      So would it work?

      -Can the rudder be closer then struts to transom?

      Rudder size? -this too big?
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      with this adapter it is about 2" from transom



      Please reply, need to order parts soon!

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      • Rumdog
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Mar 2009
        • 6453

        #18
        You'll probably want to use a standoff to get the centered rudder behind the props.

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        • AlanN
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 334

          #19
          Originally posted by FastVee
          Need help with my 57" apache project.

          Will have twin motors and struts. -But I want to use only one rudder and put it to the center of the transom

          It will be for sport/wave bashing, not racing.

          So would it work?

          -Can the rudder be closer then struts to transom?

          Rudder size? -this too big?
          CMSimple is a simple content management system for smart maintainance of small commercial or private sites. It is simple - small - smart! It is Free Software licensed under AGPL



          with this adapter it is about 2" from transom



          Please reply, need to order parts soon!

          -Pate
          The rudder blade should not be closer to the transom than the struts. The rudder blade should be a as far from the transom as the props or slightly farther back. For one thing you don't want to disturb the water that the props will eventually see. The other issue is leverage.

          ps make sure the rudder swing clears the prop diameters!

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          • MarkF
            dinogylipos.com
            • Mar 2008
            • 979

            #20
            On my cybersorm I have the rudder in the center and it works just fine for running fast and strait. My 2 records in Q mono and Offshore are with this boat. Now for oval racing I don't think its better in the middle. I would prefer it offset to the right for that. Now having said that I did set this boat up for my girlfriend with a mild motor so that she could turn it in both directions. Thats why I put the rudder in the middle and a turn fin on both sides. I took a shot with this boat running it at the saw events set up like it is and was very happy with the results.

            Mark

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            • Make-a-Wake
              FE Rules!
              • Nov 2009
              • 5557

              #21
              On all my early builds i used a center rudder cuz i thought it looked better.......turns out, they work great........turns are very good both ways. My first were BL Villains and then a 45" Dumas..........the Villains turn on a Dime! I think it works just fine......................

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              • FastVee
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 649

                #22
                editff topic
                Last edited by FastVee; 01-12-2011, 07:19 PM.
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                • T Nissen
                  Newbie all over again
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 46

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Fluid
                  ...With most monos the placement to the right works fine for turning either direction, I know my Aeromarine Titan 40 turns very well in both directions, but its rudder is long enough to stay in the water during a left turn..
                  Jay, do recommend offsetting the rudder to the right in an offshore mono then (as long as you use a longer blade)?

                  I am planning on building a P Offshore (DF29) for the Limited class and was wondering. Good question Darin.

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                  • Fluid
                    Fast and Furious
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8011

                    #24
                    Because the boat turns better to the right with an offset rudder, and because you have a lot more right turns on an offshore course than left turns, a right-mounted rudder works fine. You will have to put a turn fin on the left corner of the transom - most put a smaller fin there than on the right but do what works on your hull. I've watched plenty of gas monos run the offshore courses with a right side rudder and win...




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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #25
                      DF 33 clone; offset rudder ( SPD .21 rudder trimmed 3/8" - homemade reinforced bracket)

                      W.O.T. U-turns right & left:

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                      • T Nissen
                        Newbie all over again
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 46

                        #26
                        Thanks Jay!

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