Stuffing Tube Question: 0.187" flex in 1/4"

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  • Shooter
    Team Mojo
    • Jun 2009
    • 2558

    #1

    Stuffing Tube Question: 0.187" flex in 1/4"

    Has anyone ran 0.187 flex in 1/4" stuffing tube (no liner)?? There's a bit of slop and I'm worried it won't be supported radially. I've considered a 7/32" tube, but heard horror stories of overheating.

    I've also hear horror stories of the stuffing tube "flarring out" at the motor end with 1/4" (too much slop).

    Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!
  • BakedMopar
    No Mo Slipah
    • Sep 2009
    • 1679

    #2
    I run that setup no issues. A 3/16" cable in a 7/32" tube is really tight. This is run with a 1521, 48mm prop in a mono that weighs 9+ pounds.
    If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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    • Shooter
      Team Mojo
      • Jun 2009
      • 2558

      #3
      That's exactly the answer I was looking for. Thanks. Do you get any water in your hull from the gap? I'm assuming the tighter strut bushing fit and the fact that the windings tend to pump the water OUT as opposed to IN should help. Just curious...

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      • RaceMechaniX
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2007
        • 2821

        #4
        The size is correct. To prevent leakage you can use a piece of fuel tubing over the motor end, but make sure it is not dragging too much on the shaft. Shrink tubing also works or just keep it greased.
        Tyler Garrard
        NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
        T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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        • BakedMopar
          No Mo Slipah
          • Sep 2009
          • 1679

          #5
          Originally posted by RaceMechaniX
          The size is correct. To prevent leakage you can use a piece of fuel tubing over the motor end, but make sure it is not dragging too much on the shaft. Shrink tubing also works or just keep it greased.


          I get no water through the stuffing tube without and tubing etc. Just keep you shaft well greased and you should be fine.
          If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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          • c_michael_72
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 184

            #6
            It's been reccomended to me to use the same 3/16" flex direct in a 1/4" tube with no liner. This is for a 36" Cat, Leopard 4092 1730kv, 6s. I'm concerned with wear/maintenance as I've always used teflon, which clearly is simple and inexpensive to replace. Will the 1/4" tube last if setup properly? It would suck to have to uninstall a custom glued and bent 1/4" brass stuffing tube on even an anual basis. Do I have this all wrong?

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            • longballlumber
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 3132

              #7
              Originally posted by c_michael_72
              Will the 1/4" tube last if setup properly? It would suck to have to uninstall a custom glued and bent 1/4" brass stuffing tube on even an anual basis. Do I have this all wrong?
              Yes and Yes

              3/16" flex in a 1/4" brass stuffing tube with NO liner will last longer than the life of the boat (assuming you properly grease the cable and often as necessary).

              Later,
              Mike

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              • TINY
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 176

                #8
                Originally posted by longballlumber
                Yes and Yes

                3/16" flex in a 1/4" brass stuffing tube with NO liner will last longer than the life of the boat (assuming you properly grease the cable and often as necessary).

                Later,
                Mike
                most of my oval are as above... Re grease every race... Teflon is a toy and great for eggs on your frypan..

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                • longballlumber
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 3132

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shooter
                  Has anyone ran 0.187 flex in 1/4" stuffing tube (no liner)?? There's a bit of slop and I'm worried it won't be supported radially. I've considered a 7/32" tube, but heard horror stories of overheating.

                  I've also hear horror stories of the stuffing tube "flarring out" at the motor end with 1/4" (too much slop).

                  Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!
                  Hey Pete,

                  You have the right stuffing tube spec’d out. I am not sure what your putting this in, but I would suggest putting an "S" bend into your stuffing tube rather than the "J" style bend that seems to be more popular in the FE world. The S bend can be slight and is what goes into ALL of my boats. In my mind and opinion; at full song, the flex is trying to straighten out. An S bend is going to support the flex at 2 points. To me that supports the flex better than the J style bend. You've seem my stuff run. The proof is in the pudding...

                  Another thing to think about is gluing the next size tube into the hull (9/32" brass tubing I think) into the hull and uses that to sleeve the ¼” shaft. That way if the ¼” shaft ever gets damaged you can replace it with out ungluing the 9/32” tube. I have used this method in my P-Limited Sport Hydro (the orange one), my recent Q sport build, and my new .21 rigger. It works!

                  Later,
                  Mike

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                  • c_michael_72
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 184

                    #10
                    Mike,

                    Many thanks!

                    Chris

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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8721

                      #11
                      Originally posted by longballlumber
                      Another thing to think about is gluing the next size tube into the hull (9/32" brass tubing I think) into the hull and uses that to sleeve the ¼” shaft. That way if the ¼” shaft ever gets damaged you can replace it with out ungluing the 9/32” tube. I have used this method in my P-Limited Sport Hydro (the orange one), my recent Q sport build, and my new .21 rigger. It works!

                      Later,
                      Mike
                      thats the way I do it on my personal boats. Makes changing the stuffing tube easier. I've found with the s bend you will need a shorter 9/32 tube.
                      Steven Vaccaro

                      Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                      • c_michael_72
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 184

                        #12
                        A quick search yeilded two similar hardware based alternatives to glassing in a tube.



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