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  • FighterCat57
    "The" Fighter Cat
    • Apr 2010
    • 3480

    #1

    Sealed drive shaft?

    I'm building and experimental craft and want to make it as water tight as possible. I'm thinking that a 4mm solid shaft would work, but curious how to seal the transom exit point.


    Perhaps a sealed bearing system?

    Any suggestions, I'm sure there's something out there already.
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  • ED66677
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1300

    #2
    rigid drive shaft are made of :
    the shaft itself let's say it is 4mm OD
    a brass tube (5mmID) that has bushing at each end, bushing are 4mmID
    once the shaft is in the tube, the volume between shaft and tube is filled with any grease via a hole on the ouside of the tube... it is water tight!
    Emmanuel
    I'm french but I doubt I really am!
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    • FighterCat57
      "The" Fighter Cat
      • Apr 2010
      • 3480

      #3
      Originally posted by ED66677
      rigid drive shaft are made of :
      the shaft itself let's say it is 4mm OD
      a brass tube (5mmID) that has bushing at each end, bushing are 4mmID
      once the shaft is in the tube, the volume between shaft and tube is filled with any grease via a hole on the ouside of the tube... it is water tight!
      So basically, I could use a cable drive strut and not worry about water coming back in the hull. The motor will be mounted at or below the water line in this project. My concern is water coming in through the drive tube.

      If a lubed cable is all it takes then I should be good to go!
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      • ED66677
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 1300

        #4
        rigid shaft in a tube is commonly used on scale boat with sub surface prop!
        Emmanuel
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        • CornelP
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 745

          #5
          Try these:
          http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...t+Drive+Shafts
          :)

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          • FighterCat57
            "The" Fighter Cat
            • Apr 2010
            • 3480

            #6
            Originally posted by CornelP
            Yep. That looks like the simplest and least expensive route to go!

            Although if I can get a jet drive/brushless setup... I'm so there!
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            • sailr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Nov 2007
              • 6927

              #7
              I know somebody will say they NEVER get water through their shaft. No matter how hard you try, water seems to find a way in. Put a small piece of sponge under where the shaft enters the boat, next to the motor coupler. This will soak up a small amount.
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              • FighterCat57
                "The" Fighter Cat
                • Apr 2010
                • 3480

                #8
                Originally posted by sailr
                I know somebody will say they NEVER get water through their shaft. No matter how hard you try, water seems to find a way in. Put a small piece of sponge under where the shaft enters the boat, next to the motor coupler. This will soak up a small amount.
                Yeah, the sponge is a wonderful thing!

                I've been putting extra sponges in my hulls and they've saved me more than once!

                I plan on putting this one in some really really rough water (ocean surf) so minimal leakage and maximum seal is the goal. Hence the jet drive possibility.
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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6927

                  #9
                  In my bigger boats I put a couple of TAMPAX in there. Works great! You just have to explain to your wife why you have TAMPAX in your car. Haha.
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                  • Jeff Wohlt
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2716

                    #10
                    Still easier to explain that than a condom! I used them for radios years ago. Worked great. I tie the tampon to the anntenny tube...LOL
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                    • FighterCat57
                      "The" Fighter Cat
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3480

                      #11
                      I guess I asked for it. I was asking to protect my shaft and prevent leakage...

                      OK, Looks like it'll be acceptable to go with a 4mm hard shaft and a sealed rubber boot on a rudder control.
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                      • CornelP
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 745

                        #12
                        BTW, the worst leak I had was from a jet drive... the body is plastic or GF and the rigid shaft is just glued or forced in. Two runs later on a brushless, you get a bit of play and loads of water.

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                        • FighterCat57
                          "The" Fighter Cat
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3480

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CornelP
                          BTW, the worst leak I had was from a jet drive... the body is plastic or GF and the rigid shaft is just glued or forced in. Two runs later on a brushless, you get a bit of play and loads of water.
                          egads!

                          Maybe I'll just stick with the strut/rudder setup.
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                          • Simon.O.
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1521

                            #14
                            The solid shaft in a grease fill stern tube is close to perfect for water tightness, I use them in both of my scale boats and even with heavy astern power there is no water ingress.

                            The jet drive is still an option. The jet unit can be mounted outside of the watertight compartment. The rear part of the boat can hold the jet unit in a wet area.

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                            • Xfactor
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 861

                              #15
                              Mc master carr my friend I can tell you expect to pay 100 dollars plus for a sealed flexible motor shaft.

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