Motor Mounts Keep Breaking Loose.. Help???

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  • NativePaul
    Greased Weasel
    • Feb 2008
    • 2760

    #31
    Epoxy and Polyester do not bond together well, try one of the other glues recomended here.
    Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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    • Brod
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 196

      #32
      Originally posted by Rumdog
      It's prob. because the tunnel is flexing from the inertia of the crash plus the weight of the motor. Stiffen up the tunnel floor with some glass or cf.
      Agreed,floor is bending and flexing,loosening the bond on the glue/hull.
      Slow gets boring fast.

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      • ED66677
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 1300

        #33
        that's why I kept the plywood rail... no epoxy no CF no nothing!
        Emmanuel
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        • properchopper
          • Apr 2007
          • 6968

          #34
          Originally posted by Brod
          Agreed,floor is bending and flexing,loosening the bond on the glue/hull.
          The solution is in post #13.
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          • Alexgar
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2009
            • 3534

            #35
            i like jb weld also

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            • Tuslow1
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 154

              #36
              Well my CF came in today and I think I ordered a tab bit too much, but the good thing is now I know how big 4 yards really is and I don't think I'll need anymore for some years to come.
              I was looking at how pretty and wet the CF looks thinking to my self "Damn thats alot" when the Fun Governer said "and you better use it all" as she walked out of the room!!!
              OK, You Go First!!!

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              • Tuslow1
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 154

                #37
                Now back to the "JB" topic, just mix it 50/50 and that will bond the mount inplace for life? No micro balloons, baking soda or cement mix?
                OK, You Go First!!!

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                • AlanN
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 334

                  #38
                  JB weld is for those who do not know how to use epoxy correctly or do not use the right epoxy.

                  West Systems or Mas.

                  Of course alot has to be said about how your mount is designed and made.

                  I bit my tongue on this topic for days....just couldn't stand it anymore.
                  Last edited by AlanN; 05-20-2010, 05:18 PM.

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                  • Doug Smock
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5272

                    #39
                    Originally posted by AlanN

                    Of course alot has to be said about how the design of your mount is created.

                    I bit my tongue on this topic for days....just couldn't stand it anymore.
                    Me too.
                    I have never had a motor mount come loose and I crash as hard and often as the next guy.
                    Crashed a mono at 88mph, tore the aft portion of the deck off, but the motor mount stayed in the boat.LOL

                    FWIW I've had good luck with 30 min Z-Poxy.
                    Carry on JB Welders!!!

                    Doug
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                    • BakedMopar
                      No Mo Slipah
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1679

                      #40
                      Originally posted by AlanN
                      JB weld is for those who do not know how to use right epoxy or do not use the right epoxy.

                      West Systems or Mas.

                      Of course alot has to be said about how the design of your mount is created.

                      I bit my tongue on this topic for days....just couldn't stand it anymore.
                      Thanks for establishing that we uneducated. It however does not answer the OP.
                      If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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                      • AlanN
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 334

                        #41
                        No baked mopar it does not directly answer the question. But 30 minute epoxy (and there are different grades out there) does not hold or cure as well as top shelf epoxy. There are plenty of good suggestions here but I am not going to repeat them. Stiffen the hull...use rails....did anyone think of a rear support for the motor? Longer cans have more leverage against the mount. I have seen jb weld used for everything but in the end it always dries up, becomes brittle and breaks anyways. Besides that it looks like $%^# in a hull.

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                        • BakedMopar
                          No Mo Slipah
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1679

                          #42
                          I have been using Hawaii Fiberglass Marine epoxy with great success up until now. My boat consists of 4" rail that extend 14". Motor mount is front and rear support. The Rico hulls have virtually no flex ( it does have a carbon floor). The rails just did not stick to the hull. I could be that the hull is not fully cured yet? I re-did it with the marine 5200 ahesive. Hopefully it holds better.
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                          • 6S HYDRO
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1320

                            #43
                            i agree about the look of the jb weld in a boat

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