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  • ReddyWatts
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1711

    #1

    Lipo specs?

    What are the specs for different lipo batteries? I want to try adding a few brands to FeCalc.

    Brand?
    ohms per cell?
    weight per single 3.7 volt cell?
    Last edited by ReddyWatts; 08-27-2007, 12:39 AM.
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  • ReddyWatts
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 1711

    #2
    The normalized resistance of the Lipo cell is HALF of the resistance of the NiMH cells. This means that for 20A+ loads, the Lipo output voltage will be higher and the internal losses [heat!] will be half of the NiMH. As a side, note that the Lipo resistance decreases with discharge. This seems common with LiPo, and apparently is a function of the cell warming up. The upsweep on the NiMH curve is typical of Ni* and contributes to the "brick-wall" effect at the end of discharge.

    CELLS _______MAH_ OHM__ WGT.____volts

    Lipo 3200-20C 2990_ .0025 __1.1 oz__ 3.7

    NiMH 3300* __3210_ .0050 __2.2 oz__ 1.2

    Plug the Lipo numbers into FeCalc and see if it comes close. For a 2s enter 2 cells, 4s enter 4 cells..............
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    Last edited by ReddyWatts; 08-27-2007, 01:15 PM.
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    M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
    Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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    • ReddyWatts
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 1711

      #3
      Will someone post your setup and results for a fiegao motor running on lipo's with direct drive. I want to check or adjust the generic lipo numbers for FeCalc. I emailed some battery shops and they do not want to give up their (ohm) numbers for any of their packs. It was no problem with NiMH batteries, but it is top secret with lipo's.

      setup:
      motor and winding
      lipo/?s / mah / brand
      prop
      hull
      number of battery connectors and length of wire.

      results:
      Speed
      amps
      battery/final temp
      Last edited by ReddyWatts; 08-29-2007, 06:47 PM.
      ReddyWatts fleet photo
      M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
      Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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      • andym
        More Go Than Show Prop Co
        • Apr 2007
        • 2406

        #4
        Reedy hope this helps
        setup; 5s, 4800, elite . Polyquest 5s, 4500mah, 30c = 125deg F
        m447 prop
        toysport triton
        6mm gold bulletts, 6" wire to esc
        84.5 kmh
        peak 130a
        145deg F

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        • SJFE
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 4735

          #5
          I will suply you with data Saturday afternoon. It will be a Kb motor however.

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          • ReddyWatts
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 1711

            #6
            AndyM: which motor and turns?

            SJFE: a KB45 will be great.

            The more setups with results I get, the better.

            Thanks!!!
            Last edited by ReddyWatts; 08-29-2007, 08:56 PM.
            ReddyWatts fleet photo
            M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
            Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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            • NorthernBoater
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 811

              #7
              I can get you some data next week after I run.

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              • Doozie870
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 828

                #8
                How do you measure ohms on either chemistry, my meter (standard type) sends voltage out and measures the drop, Im worried it would blow up if I tried to hook it to a pack.

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                • ReddyWatts
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1711

                  #9
                  You have to use special equipment to read the actual ohms(impedance) of a battery. A regular volt ohm meter will not work. We have people that use this equipment at work but I do not have any lipo's to test, so I am going to try and use FeCalc and adjust the battery ohms until the calculations match the results of your tests. Then hopefully use that data to find other lipo setups.

                  I did find one 3300 lipo that was .0025 ohms per cell. I want to see how close FeCalc figures this to an actual setup.
                  Last edited by ReddyWatts; 08-29-2007, 09:55 PM.
                  ReddyWatts fleet photo
                  M1 Supercat - Neu 1527 1Y, 8s / Mean Machine- Feigao 580, 8s, 120 HV esc
                  Mean Machine - Feigao 540 14XL, 8s, 100 amp HV esc, X537/3

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