Anyone running the new Schulze 40.160WK Future XL Controllers?

[Xfactor]

No i see now looking at it what your sayin is if its switching at 16mhz/4 =4,000,000? that cant be right thats about 36x the speed of sound. Im confused

[Xfactor]

You know what? is the esc throttle setting auto? Make sure your throttle trim is in neutral when you power up the esc.Maybe?

[Xfactor]

check your bullets

[RaceMechaniX]

No i see now looking at it what your sayin is if its switching at 16mhz/4 =4,000,000? that cant be right thats about 36x the speed of sound. Im confused

The Schulze has a max commutation speed fo 240,000 RPM for a 2 pole motor. A 4 pole would would have a max RPM of 120,000 RPM and so on.

The timing is unrelated to the max commutation speed.

The throttle setting is on auto, like the older schulze. I believe that is working fine as it runs up to 100% on the bench, just not under load.

TG

[RaceMechaniX]

I'm going to assume the data is from an Eagle tree logger? So does that mean you are reading the voltage right off the battery leads? Where at? At the esc or somewhere in the wiring loop. Also whats the wiring arraingment? Four 4S packs? What are the parallel adapters you are using? Home made? Low voltage and low current data from the logger says its a battery/wiring issue when under load. Cold solder joint? Bad cell in a pack?

John

John,

The new controllers have built in data logging. This comes right from the Schulze.

The wiring arrangement: for the 8S set-up I have 4x- 4S FP 30C 4500 mAh packs. I wire two pairs of batteries in series and run both pairs in parallel for 8S2P.

I am not sure if the voltage recorded is the voltage in to the ESC or the Voltage the esc is driving at. It would make sense that it is the input voltage, but I have seen industrial/Mil controllers that log output voltage too.

Tyler

[Xcesive8]

I run both my New model schultz 40.160wk in my Hpr 135 with 1527 1.5y's.
Ive never had a drama period!

Wheres your DIL switches at on the controller?
I know the positioning of them is different to the older model.
Mine are at
1 = on
2 = on
3 = off
4 = on
5 = off
6 = off

Also pretty sure this controllers has a fail safe built in to turn off if your wiring is to long, if it exceeds the 10" to prevent damage to its self.

Cheers Ryan

[m4a1usr]

The wiring arrangement: for the 8S set-up I have 4x- 4S FP 30C 4500 mAh packs. I wire two pairs of batteries in series and run both pairs in parallel for 8S2P.

Thats sort of what I assumed. That beckons the question are you using a bullet connector on each wire out of the esc? 2 red/ 2 black? Thats your parallel adapter?

John

[Xfactor]

Unrelated:is there a motor that can stand 120,000 rpm? what would happen if it threw a collet set screw at that speed(scary)

[Xfactor]

your motor doesnt have an internal short does it.Epoxy coming off wire?One thing you be careful cause that guy with the aeromarine hydro got his timing off somehow and blew his schultz.Man id be sick for ya if u did that. Hell ,send it back ,make them fix it before they say its your fault.Try another esc. If its the motor that will tell ya.I think he was on a neu 2215

[Xfactor]

dont mess up that BENZ controller

[Gerwin Brommer]

How is the condition of your receiver-battery ?????????

[RaceMechaniX]

your motor doesnt have an internal short does it.Epoxy coming off wire?One thing you be careful cause that guy with the aeromarine hydro got his timing off somehow and blew his schultz.Man id be sick for ya if u did that. Hell ,send it back ,make them fix it before they say its your fault.Try another esc. If its the motor that will tell ya.I think he was on a neu 2215

Condition of the motor is excellent. I bench tested with a Castle HV110 and everything works fine. When running 2P, each 1P goes into its own pair of the battery cables.
BTW, yes there are motors that go higher speeds than 120k. We have developed one at work for turbos. Its a 2.5kW motor @ 80k that will overspeed to 120k.

Tyler

[RaceMechaniX]

I run both my New model schultz 40.160wk in my Hpr 135 with 1527 1.5y's.
Ive never had a drama period!

Wheres your DIL switches at on the controller?
I know the positioning of them is different to the older model.
Mine are at
1 = on
2 = on
3 = off
4 = on
5 = off
6 = off

Also pretty sure this controllers has a fail safe built in to turn off if your wiring is to long, if it exceeds the 10" to prevent damage to its self.

Cheers Ryan

Ryan,

The Dil swithes are the same except for the soft start Switch 4.

Tyler

[RaceMechaniX]

How is the condition of your receiver-battery ?????????

I am running 2S direct lipo to the reciever. I assume the Schulze is optically isolated from the reciever so the voltage should not matter. I hope.

I tired using a standard 6V NiMH and no difference.

Tyler

[Ub Hauled]

WOW... Tyler, still no culprit? Will you be sending it out to Germany?