Help w/ dtermination of H&M

[tiqueman]

So I got this hull from the swap shop last week.

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=12966

And after arrival determined it must be a HOTR. Now Im painting a Rigger for a friend of mine which is a H&M and to my suprise, that hull has the same insignia paper stamp resined into the canopy.

I guess it would be easy to duplicate this and glass it into whatever hull you had.. but how can I find out if mines an actual H&M or a HOTR? Are these two hulls EXACTLY the same! As in, did HOTR infact pull the Agitator and leave it EXACT? The layup of the riggers canopy is a woven cloth. The Cat has a woven hull, but matt hatch. The cat also seems to have a bit darker yellow resin than the H&M rigger. Like a Poly rather than an epoxy. The hatches compared at the thick part of the resin behind the front verticle face of the scoop shows like epoxy in the rigger (a cloudy whitish blue) where as the cat is yellow.

Im still favoring it is a HOTR that someone at one point sold off as a H&M knock off.

"Thegreat1" that I purchased the hull from stated it was a HOTR. He in no way at all represented it to me via PM or on the swap shop as a H&M. Just wanted to make that clear for his sake. He was "great" to deal with.

EDIT:
Oh, and the right sponson was slightly kicked in. The left was less than a 32nd off. With some heat and wedges they are now perfectly straight.

Also the hull did have about 3/32 of twist in it. It is now almost straight.... lil more to go.

[Alfa Spirit]

On a HM hull the joint is here :



On a HOTR hull the joint is in the middle, easier to reinforce :



So ......

[Rumdog]

That blue h@m isn't an agitator though, is it?

[tiqueman]

That blue h@m isn't an agitator though, is it?

That was going to be my question as well?

But, if that is where the joint is on a H&M.. then mine certainly is a HOTR.

And Alfa, that SUCKS!!!!

[Steven Vaccaro]

I have a couple of H&M boats and the inside quality doesn't look the same. Also the seller seems to have listed it as hotr. I dont mean to sound like a wise a(*^s, but am I missing something?

[tiqueman]

I have a couple of H&M boats and the inside quality doesn't look the same. Also the seller seems to have listed it as hotr. I dont mean to sound like a wise a(*^s, but am I missing something?

Yeah there are labels in the hull I got that say H&M... a name and a phone number. Look at the pics in the first post of the HOTR I purchased off the swap shop (see link above in post 1). You can see the label in them. Thats why theres been qeustion about it.

[hydromaddicted]

All 4 of the H&M hulls I have are the whiteish blue inside.

[tiqueman]

All 4 of the H&M hulls I have are the whiteish blue inside.

Yeah I think thats the biggest give away. Its deffinitely a poly hull I have.

Cool, thanks!

[Alfa Spirit]

On a HM hull the joint is here :




So ......

Sorry, that' s a Hydro Marine Drifter

Show me pictures of your hull I will tell you if this is HM or HOTR

[Steven Vaccaro]

Yeah there are labels in the hull I got that say H&M... a name and a phone number. Look at the pics in the first post of the HOTR I purchased off the swap shop (see link above in post 1). You can see the label in them. Thats why theres been qeustion about it.

I saw that before, but the seller said it was hotr. Did he ever tell you it was H&M?

[old guy]

02-23-2010, 03:59 PM
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hull is in good condition never seen water or even been built just don't have time to build it. i believe it is an hotr. the lables inside are h&m but i bought it from someone soi i don't know if he put the lables in or not.

This is what he said. if you do not want it I will take it of your hand
Old Guy

[Meniscus]

02-23-2010, 03:59 PM
thegreat1 thegreat1 is offline
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hull is in good condition never seen water or even been built just don't have time to build it. i believe it is an hotr. the lables inside are h&m but i bought it from someone soi i don't know if he put the lables in or not.

This is what he said. if you do not want it I will take it of your hand
Old Guy

LOL, an opportunist at heart! And helpful at that

[thegreat1]

tiqueman,

i finally got in touch with the guy i bought it from and he told me that he f/g'd the labels in. his reason was because he thought it looked cool lol. so that is that. i purchased it from eyecandyboats

[tiqueman]

tiqueman,

i finally got in touch with the guy i bought it from and he told me that he f/g'd the labels in. his reason was because he thought it looked cool lol. so that is that. i purchased it from eyecandyboats

Interesting concept... hmm?

[tiqueman]

I saw that before, but the seller said it was hotr. Did he ever tell you it was H&M?

Steven,
Purposely, I clear stated many times, thegreat1 NEVER tried to tell me or sell it as a H&M. It was a question that I and the forum brought up while the boat was for sale because of the labels.