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  • Gary
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2009
    • 1105

    #1

    hydra 240 hv

    Hey guys ! Its Sat. night and im trying to program my Hydra 240 HV through the Link. I came to the section of " Current limiter" . What is this for?
    PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
    H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
    Chris Craft 16 mph
  • Boatman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 796

    #2
    It is for you to turn off! Really.

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    • andym
      More Go Than Show Prop Co
      • Apr 2007
      • 2406

      #3
      It is for you to turn off! Really.
      I agree, no place for it on FE applications and I can not work out why they left it as an option.

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      • domwilson
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 4408

        #4
        Found this here..http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=848120

        The current limiter built-in on the Phoenix line uses an A/D measurement of the voltage drop across the low-side MOSFET to determine the amount of current flowing through the MOSFETs... so it's really not a current limit, but rather a dissipation limit for the MOSFETs. The samples are taken 1/2 way through the "on" cycle of the PWM.

        In practice, if the MOSFETs stay cool, the controller will current limit at around 2 times the rated current of the controller. As the controller warms up, the resistance of the MOSFETs increases, and the current limit drops to a lower current level. At maximum controller temperature, the current limit is near the controller rating.

        While it is not always 100% effective in preventing damage to the controller (there are setups where the controller will be damaged BEFORE the current limit jumps in to protect the controller) the current limit will protect the controller in most situations.

        The Phoenix-ICE series will have direct current measurement with shunt, high performance amplifier and high accuracy A/D. The ICE series will have a user settable current limit (we'll see how much people abuse that!!!) However, even that type of current measurement (or even hall sensor based measurements) aren't always fast enough to protect the controller in ALL possible situations.

        Patrick"

        But it relates to the Phoenix ICE controllers.
        Government Moto:
        "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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        • BakedMopar
          No Mo Slipah
          • Sep 2009
          • 1679

          #5
          I use the limiter function on my ice. I don't turn it off but run it insensitive. It cuts out when too much amps are drawn with too much prop.
          If all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed!

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          • Ub Hauled
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 3031

            #6
            I am not sure how the limiter works, but I thought about it for some time and figured that the spikes on the ESC would trigger the limiter out of the hole generating cogging like effects (really annoying)... if you decide to leave it on, I am sure it'll turn you into a more careful driver.... I leave it off in all my applications.
            :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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            • domwilson
              Moderator
              • Apr 2007
              • 4408

              #7
              If I remember correctly. When the hydras first came out, there was an issue with them cutting out on full throttle. It was recommended to turn the limiter off and that seemed to fix the problem. I have mine turned off as well.
              Government Moto:
              "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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              • Gary
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Jan 2009
                • 1105

                #8
                Great !! I will do the same.I ask because im running 45-90c batteries that put out 520 amps at 90c so theres no room for error this time! I will also give Castle a call Monday aswell. I taking all the protective measures i can so this ESC makes it down the lake with no smoke LOL. My luck has been in the toilet this year.
                PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                Chris Craft 16 mph

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                • Gary
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1105

                  #9
                  Great !! I will do the same.I ask because im running 45-90c batteries that put out 520 amps at 90c so theres no room for error this time! I will also give Castle a call Monday aswell. I taking all the protective measures i can so this ESC makes it down the lake with no smoke LOL. My luck has been in the toilet this year.
                  PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                  H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                  Chris Craft 16 mph

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