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  • Diegoboy
    Administrator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7244

    #1

    Doing all the wrong things.

    Sitting here charging a lipo in the house, I find two of them (1-3S maxamp & 1-3S Zippy) below minimum voltage. I didn't want to give up on them, so I charged them as Nicad 9-cells @0.5A (ignoring the balance leads) It brought the lipos above minimum voltage. Then I charged them as normal. Any harm in what I did?
    "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  • m4a1usr
    Fast Electric Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 2038

    #2
    Originally posted by Diegoboy
    Sitting here charging a lipo in the house, I find two of them (1-3S maxamp & 1-3S Zippy) below minimum voltage. I didn't want to give up on them, so I charged them as Nicad 9-cells @0.5A (ignoring the balance leads) It brought the lipos above minimum voltage. Then I charged them as normal. Any harm in what I did?
    Maybe. Have you attached a balancer to see where each cell ended up? The packs will only be as good as the worse cell.

    John
    Change is the one Constant

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    • Diegoboy
      Administrator
      • Mar 2007
      • 7244

      #3
      After the 0.5a Nicad charge, I balanced them and charged them normally (as a lipo) everything seems cool with them...
      "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
      . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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      • Xzessperated
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2008
        • 3060

        #4
        Danny I rescued a rather expensive 45c Thunder Power pack by charging it as an A123 until the voltage was OK to finish it as a Lipo. I have had at least 8 trips to the lake with it since then. The boat is going faster than ever (because of prop changes) so there appears to be no damage done.
        I am not recommending it, just saying it worked for me.
        Several boats in various stages of destruction

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        • Diegoboy
          Administrator
          • Mar 2007
          • 7244

          #5
          Thanks.
          I wish I'd have known this trick sooner, I threw away 2 lipos because of under voltage. I'm glad I gave these 2 a second chance.
          "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
          . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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          • domwilson
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 4408

            #6
            I've read several posts here where guys have done the same thing with success. I've also read that freezing and thawing them and recharging works. So I've tried it on a dead laptop battery that wouldn't charge. It worked.
            Government Moto:
            "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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            • ozzie-crawl
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2008
              • 2865

              #7
              how do they get below voltage in the first place

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              • marko500
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 861

                #8
                I used that trick on a Flightmax pack that dropped to about 2.6v per cell. I used it all last season and it still charges, balances, and runs as good as before. Mine dropped that low after I forgot to unplug it and remove it from the boat when I was done Running. I guess the external BEC drew it down that far.

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                • Diegoboy
                  Administrator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7244

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ozzie-crawl
                  how do they get below voltage in the first place
                  Ran it till the LVC kicked in and waiting a few weeks to charge it.
                  "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                  • Xzessperated
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3060

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ozzie-crawl
                    how do they get below voltage in the first place
                    I am not going to tell you he said with a red face.







                    OK here is another embarrassing moment. I did not set the cut off.
                    Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                    • Diegoboy
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 7244

                      #11
                      Paddy, I like youe answer better, can I change my answer please??
                      "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                      . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                      • Xzessperated
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3060

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Diegoboy
                        Paddy, I like youe answer better, can I change my answer please??
                        Yes change it.

                        I am not going to tell anyone how many packs I killed this way Danny. Half of them probably could have been saved if I had tried really hard.
                        Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                        • ozzie-crawl
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2865

                          #13

                          makes me wonder if iam a bit annul about my battries,i cant afford these days to kill one so i dont run mine till lvc.
                          when i set a boat up i do the usall short runs and work my way up but also see how much mah i use. i then set the timer on the tx for how long i can safley run before things get to hot or the lvc kicks in.

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                          • Doug Smock
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5272

                            #14
                            You can't be too anal when caring for your LiPos IMO.
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                            • ozzie-crawl
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2865

                              #15
                              dont want to pinch dannys thread but for the first time my lipos are going to be unused for a few months,acouple of my chargers have storage capability
                              is this what you guys use,what should the be stored at voltage wise?

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