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  • cybercrxt
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 2909

    #31
    Jim, I really feel that might be adding to the problem. Its such a blunt face that if it caught the water in the front, it would be over really quick! I am going to make sharp front blocks for mine I think, and I am hoping that I can get it to work where the boat will plane from a standing start. I hate not being able to restart after a boat falls off plane! Mike
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    • detox
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2008
      • 2318

      #32
      Make sure your coupler is tight on cable... it may be slipping. I would also make sure the drive dog is not slipping...retighten the allen screw if it has one.

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      • sailr
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Nov 2007
        • 6927

        #33
        Everything is tight. Boat runs like a scalded ape once it's on plane.

        Originally posted by detox
        Make sure your coupler is tight on cable... it may be slipping. I would also make sure the drive dog is not slipping...retighten the allen screw if it has one.
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        • sailr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 6927

          #34
          Could be Mike! Good idea. I'm going to do the same. Funny thing is Hugh's is on plane instantly. Granted, the area isn't as big as mine but wouldn't think an additional 1/6" would make that much difference.


          Originally posted by cybercrxt
          Jim, I really feel that might be adding to the problem. Its such a blunt face that if it caught the water in the front, it would be over really quick! I am going to make sharp front blocks for mine I think, and I am hoping that I can get it to work where the boat will plane from a standing start. I hate not being able to restart after a boat falls off plane! Mike
          Mini Cat Racing USA
          www.minicatracingusa.com

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          • Jeff
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 232

            #35
            What speed controll are you using? Is it one that might have the softstart programed into it so it doesn't allow it to snap up on plane?
            I try and avoid paste eaters.

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            • sailr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Nov 2007
              • 6927

              #36
              Using a stock UL-1 ESC. Not programmable to my knowledge. Good thought
              though! We are running LSH SPEC Hydro. All using the UL-1 motor on 4S.



              Originally posted by Jeff
              What speed controll are you using? Is it one that might have the softstart programed into it so it doesn't allow it to snap up on plane?
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              • Doug Smock
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 5272

                #37
                Jim try a prop with some tongue on it. A 642 once detougned doesn't have alot of blade area.
                Remember no two boats are the same, too many variables, especially with a woody.
                I would start from scratch with the setup and put some blade on her!

                Good luck,
                Doug
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                • tth
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 1510

                  #38
                  Jim I also agree with Doug. Try something with a little more blade surface. Maybe a little more diameter but less pitch......x445 or an un-modded x642.
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                  • detox
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2318

                    #39
                    Originally posted by D.Smock
                    Jim try a prop with some tongue on it. A 642 once detougned doesn't have alot of blade area.
                    Remember no two boats are the same, too many variables, especially with a woody.
                    I would start from scratch with the setup and put some blade on her!

                    Good luck,
                    Doug
                    Doug knows his stuff. I hear R/C drag racers use a prop with more tongue to jump out of the hole quicker. I bet maybe a standerd x442 would work well. The UL-1 motor likes to spin fast.

                    Be sure to add extra caps to your esc also.


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                    • detox
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2318

                      #40
                      Originally posted by tth
                      Jim I also agree with Doug. Try something with a little more blade surface. Maybe a little more diameter but less pitch......x445 or an un-modded x642.
                      I bet the x445 cut down to 42mm or 43mm would be fast.

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                      • tth
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 1510

                        #41
                        Originally posted by detox
                        I bet the x445 cut down to 42mm or 43mm would be fast.

                        Good suggestion since he is running spec power. Also a little cup wouldn't hurt either.

                        Edit: Then again that may produce the lift that could be hurting him?
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                        • sailr
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 6927

                          #42
                          Thanks Doug! What you say makes perfect sense and I know you are the 'Go Fast Guru."

                          It will probably be a few weeks before I can get her back on the water. Also have some repairs to the hull since I hit Ray R last weekend!

                          Will try to get back her to post the results.

                          Originally posted by D.Smock
                          Jim try a prop with some tongue on it. A 642 once detougned doesn't have alot of blade area.
                          Remember no two boats are the same, too many variables, especially with a woody.
                          I would start from scratch with the setup and put some blade on her!

                          Good luck,
                          Doug
                          Mini Cat Racing USA
                          www.minicatracingusa.com

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