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  • wolf IV
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 961

    #16
    Originally posted by domwilson
    when i split the seam in one of my cats, i did what jay suggested. I mixed up a good amount of epoxy, poured it from the inside till it started seaping thru. Then i wiped off the excess and clamped it closed (paper clamps) no leaks and you can't even see the repair. I also used long q-tips and fondue sticks to spread the epoxy inside. I'm cheap.
    i did the opposite with two of my hulls.. I first took some two part epoxy and put it in the split, clamped it shut until dry. Then dripped in the real suport from the inside. Same thing though, works good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-npTLBHefY

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    • questtek
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 556

      #17
      I also agree with using the two-part epoxy for those hard-to-get-to front seams. I also added another item that really strenthened the bow section of my yellow and blue Mean Machines. This foam is a two part deal. You mix equal parts. I included a pic of the cans that I purchased at a local fiberglass shop. Not cheap, the two quart cans,the smallest amount you can buy, was about $35.

      A great feature of this foam is that it REALLY sticks to the fiberglass and is closed cell. It will not pick up water. If you have a small fracture or hairline crack the foam seems to do a good job preventing water from getting into the hull

      I mix up A and B of the foam mixture in a paper cup. The stuff REALLY expands so you have to watch it. I added a dram of A and B and got a half cup of foam. A dram is a really small, something like a half a milli-farthing or something like that.

      You can see the expansion VS time from the markings on the paper cup.

      I am pleased with the results and have used this technique for several other FE boats with hard to get to bow sections.
      Attached Files

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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #18
        Tiqueman, don't feel too bad man, this kinda stuff happens... today I lost a Hydra 240 LV, a 2s 5000 pack and potentially a Rigger that I had design for the upcoming SAWs... pity... at least you kept your boat.
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • JCAustralia
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 304

          #19
          Tiqueman

          Sorry to hear about what happened to you. That sucks......

          I nealy loss my SV27 on its maiden run and was devastated when it got 'stuck' in the lake for 2 days before I could get the rangers to get it for me.. It was my first FE boat with brand new batteries......

          Here is my suggestion:

          Get the boat repaired and have a nice carbon fibre inlay inside.

          The smell will probably go by itself after a while and the hulll would smell nice fresh resin from the carbon inlay. Besides an inlay inside would look neat and hide any visual clues of that incident......

          There are reports in the news that the US economy is improving and no more in recession. Hopefully things will improve quickly for you guys in the US. For us here is Australia I guess things are not as bad as in the US......


          Cheers

          JC

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          • Ctonez
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 404

            #20
            febreeze and fabric softener sheets will also help the smell. Febreeze and leave open (as previously stated) clean again with alcohol, get a nice "spring-fresh" drier sheet, and put it in and close the hatch for a day or 2.

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            • elvish
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 125

              #21
              something out of topic, but perhaps you should think about getting those deans out, and start playing with big boys connectors, pk 6mm maybe?

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              • domwilson
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 4408

                #22
                There was a post on here sometime back where someone recommended oven cleaner to get rid of the smell and they say it cleans it up well.

                http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...highlight=oven
                Government Moto:
                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                • Eodman
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1253

                  #23
                  Couple of years ago when Doug & I got into this hobby Fluid and a few others made the same recommendation --- now all our boats are running 5.5 mm bullet connectors!
                  We did it with a Bang!

                  Cats Are Where It's At!

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                  • crabstick
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 954

                    #24
                    im wondering how vanilla essence would work for the smell?
                    Matt.
                    FE, Nitro and Gas racing in Auckland
                    www.rcboats.co.nz

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                    • tharmer
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 342

                      #25
                      I used lacquer thinner to clean out my mess. My solution was to paint the entire inside, it has a single tub down the middle so I was able to get it all covered with paint.
                      -t

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                      • tiqueman
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5669

                        #26
                        Wow guys. Im gone for a day and my thread is rockin! Thanks for all the info. As I said, the repair to me is no biggie. Im pretty well experienced in fiberglassing and whatnot. I think Ive decided to rip out all the existing stringers and do a carbon layup. Im looking at the water cooled 540 mount that OSE has. But I think I would build new sides for the mount out of carbon.

                        Im going to repair it similar to what wolf said. Im going to open it up a bit and spread some epoxy into the seperation and then clamp it and let it cure. Then go into the inside and do an epoxy/ micro balloon pour. It should be fine. I found a few more cracks and such that Im also going to take care of. Also as stated in a post above, doing the carbon will not only look good, it will take out and cover a good part of the smell.

                        As for the bullets. Im going to get there. But I believe the batt connections had nothing to do with this. The bullets on the motor may have? I have had deans before get so hot that it further heats the shrink wrap and breaks it at the connection. There are no signs of excessive heating on them. But, the 6mm might happen during the re-build.

                        As for other components. I found that my reciever bit it as well. It took the blunt of the gasses, heat, nasty goo etc. So its dead too.

                        I also thought about puting in a carbon bulkhead. And I thought about this... when it happen, as I said, it began to make a whistling pressure type sound, the hull expanded, I could see the deck rising, and then the front seem blew out... Seems pretty amazing to me that the seem blew before the pressure went out the pushrod seal. Has anyone ever done like a pressure release hole or something? I dont know exactly what Id be talking about here. Ive been thinking though, a small hole w/ a piece of tape just enough to hold it over the hole so it would release upon pressure, or like a water outlet, again having a small piece of tape over the outside so that it would blow off and release trapped gasses and pressure. I dunno, something to think about. Eventually Im building my dream boat and I do NOT want that hull to blow open.....

                        Thanks again guys for all the input. I know it could have been a lot worse, it just sucks to not have the funds to rebuild it immediately. Thankfully I have a couple other boats to mess with in the mean time. And as much as it sucked, it was almost cool to watch.
                        Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                        HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                        WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                        • domwilson
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4408

                          #27
                          Sounds good to me. Looks like you got it under control. Good Luck with the repairs.
                          Government Moto:
                          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                          • sunsation288
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 118

                            #28
                            Sad to hear your problem ....but i am absolutely sure you going to fix it very well ...please keep the picture coming and how you do it
                            Regards
                            Christian

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                            • tiqueman
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5669

                              #29
                              I got all the stringers and structure out. Ive sanded everything down, cleaned it all a couple more times and now Im letting the bow dry out before I start epoxying it back together.

                              Ive decided to inlay it w/ carbon since I have it. Heres my question. Should I inlay it, and then mount my motor mount on top and use more carbon to secure it OR, I was thinking, install the mounts (stringers if you will) epoxying them in and then running a strip of carbon along both sides of each (stringer) and down onto the hull. Then put my full inlay in, cut 2 strips in the inlay where the mounts (stringers) will be and let the inlay secure the mounts even more. Is that too much unecessary work?

                              Heres the mount Im thinking of using.
                              This one http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=etti-h010
                              or this one http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=ose-509b14
                              Thoughts?
                              Attached Files
                              Geico epoxy laminate hatch sale thread Black Jack epoxy laminate hatch sale thread
                              HPR06 6S Twin HOTR Genesis (SOLD) Vantex 32" cat Geico racing
                              WEST FL MODEL BOAT CLUB www.scottskiracing.com

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                              • domwilson
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4408

                                #30
                                Looks good. Can't really tell that there was a mishap. Both mounts look good. I have the first one myself. I don't know about the CF as I haven't used it yet myself. But I would imagine that it is similar in application as fiberglass. But I could be wrong.
                                Government Moto:
                                "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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