Saw run records

[graill]

OK, question, having watched more than a few boating events (including saw) i have a question that has come up more than once i could not answer about the saw events.

On the measured course you racers run, are you allowed (and why)...... to be at speed (any) before before crossing the first trap and making your run (i know the rules for the run etc, its before the first trap that has me wondering).

If you are allowed to be moving at a good clip before crossing the line to make that record run, is the speed you were going before the first trap light subtracted from the total? And what is the point of a saw run being made if you are going near max speed when you trip the first light and finish maxing throttle as you cross that first light to make your run.

Why isnt it made from a dead stop or close to idle as the first light is approached? After all the point of the run is to see how powerful a boat is on the measured course for top speed.

Is it Just agreed on rules that were made up between racers or is there some scientific significance (seriously, accuracy, etc) ? inquiring minds would like to know.

Right now i am seeing the saw runs and rules made exactly like runs for the salt flats. The vehicle is allowed to reach near top speed, it enters the measured course flat out pushing for the last trap light. a second run made for verification is made soon after the first, the only difference i have seen is that if a boat making its verification run is destroyed the record is still given and tech is overlooked. (let me know if i got that right)

I asked this on the RRR forum but didnt ask quite right, more info was needed.

[Gerwin Brommer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but :
isn't it the drivers goal to reach max. speed BEFORE he passes the first speedtrap and maintain that speed till the last trap ???

[RayR]

Jim,

SAWS runs are max speed runs. Think of it as Bonneville Salt Flats not Drag Racing. The driver MUST complete both trips, R to L and L to R in order to be awarded a record. There are a limited number of calibrated sets of timing lights available from either NAMBA or IMPBA, and they must be set up on a surveyed course.

All the best,

Ray

[Bill-SOCAL]

I'm trying to figure out how many different ways and threads you are going to ask basically the same questions

[Fluid]

It has nothing to do with modelers 'making up' the game, we adopted it from full-scale practice. Marine SAW events have a very long history in full-scale racing. All of them have been flying-mile or flying kilo records.

As stated above, standing start is drag racing, which is a test of acceleration, not speed. In that venue top speed is pretty meaningless, it is the elapsed time through a measured distance that matters (along with your reaction time versus your opponent's).

Technically, all boats setting a record should be teched right off the water after the run and before being awarded any record......


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[Flying Scotsman]

Jim,

SAWS runs are max speed runs. Think of it as Bonneville Salt Flats not Drag Racing. The driver MUST complete both trips, R to L and L to R in order to be awarded a record. There are a limited number of calibrated sets of timing lights available from either NAMBA or IMPBA, and they must be set up on a surveyed course.

All the best,

Ray

I have never run a SAW race or any other sanctioned race, but SAW fascinates me as it is the true speed of the boat in water and wind conditions that suit the hull. The boat is put to the limit of it's design criteria.

Douggie

[graill]

Got a couple more answers out of this, appreciate it Fluid and RayR.

I'm trying to figure out how many different ways and threads you are going to ask basically the same questions

Damn Bill (sniff) busting my balls. this is the second time i asked about saws, first was a RRR thread. As i stated here in my most recent convo there were a couple aspects i couldnt answer in a convo. RayR. has verified what i was trying to compare them too..........

.......now if you will excuse me, i need some ice....... (grin)

[sailr]

It ain't a drag race! It's a top speed individual run. The idea is to get up your best speed BEFORE hitting the first trap and maintaining it through the course. THEN, turn around and come the other way and try to best or at least hold the speed (time). The two will be averaged for your time.

[raptor347]

I've never seen a record allowed without a tech inspection.

[rockwerks]

What is the record for N1 Offshore?

[raptor347]

There's no N-1 offshore. N-2 offshore is 55.94 mph.

[rockwerks]

There's no N-1 offshore. N-2 offshore is 55.94 mph.

That is only because no one has tried to set one............LOL or so I was told.....maybe I was fibbed too?

[raptor347]

The only available power classes for offshore are N2, P, Q, S, T. It's in the offshore section of the rulebook.

Of course there's LSO with 700 brushed motors.