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  • Chilli
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2008
    • 3070

    #1

    Spark Arrestor

    I put my electrical knowledge at just above "enough to be dangerous". I was thinking I needed a spark arrestor for my Etti 150 since I added a cap board this evening. But I don't like any more wiring in my boats than necessary. So I thought, what If I assemble a temporary jumper with a resister that goes between the battery's positive wire and the ESC. I can plug it in between the two for a few seconds to charge up the caps. Then pull it off and reconnect the pack. Or if using a 2P set up, connect the battery with the jumper. Install the second battery. Then pull the resister off the first pack.

    I ran over to Radio Shack and got a 1/2 watt 33 ohm resister. I clipped some 5.5 bullets off an old nimh pack and soldered the resister on. I covered it with silicon tubing. I plan on shrink wrapping the whole thing a few times to stiffen it up. I took a pic of it with just the silicon tube to show what I did. I tested it with one 4s pack And it seems to have worked perfectly. Just want to know what you guys think. Is my theory sound or am I off my rocker?

    Mike
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    Last edited by Chilli; 09-24-2009, 11:13 AM.
    Mike Chirillo
    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    MIke, are you going to leave the resistor in the main loop? You'll probably will notice a decline in speed...
    the spark arrest is meant to be there to start um the batteries (a little 2.5mm plug) and then be unhooked or bypassed by a non- resisted connection...
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • Chilli
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jan 2008
      • 3070

      #3
      I only hooked it up for a few seconds to charge up the caps. Then I removed it and reattached the battery with no spark.
      Mike Chirillo
      www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #4
        perfect... if the caps stay charged, I don't know if they do or not
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • FloatDaBoat
          Bare Bones Fabricator
          • Sep 2009
          • 368

          #5
          The caps hold a charge for quite a while. Back during my Basic Electric training days in the Army, one instructor would charge-up some 300 volt caps & leave them on the student lab stations. It was a shocking experience to pick one up . . . .

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          • Ub Hauled
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 3031

            #6
            are t hose the same that are offered in the consumer market?
            I know that they are going to market a car that have giant capacitors
            as fuel tanks... pretty cool stuff
            :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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            • sailr
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Nov 2007
              • 6927

              #7
              good idea! I like it better than the permanently soldered in links!
              Mini Cat Racing USA
              www.minicatracingusa.com

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              • jantagg
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 187

                #8
                To quote the technician from Castle. "The bigger the spark the better". No spark means the caps are shot so, be prepared for a ESC fire.

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                • Chilli
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3070

                  #9
                  I did some further testing and my little spark arrestor seems to work fine. Even with a 1p set up. The only time the caps drained after disconnecting the spark arrestor was when the reciever was left on. I don't know if my choice of resister is optimal, but it works.

                  I did do one last test without the spark arrestor to see how much more spark with the new cap board. I was surprised how large the spark was.

                  Tom, every time I plug in my ESC, I expect a fire

                  If anyone want to debate the use of a spark arrestor on this thread, have at it.
                  I'm all ears!!!!
                  Last edited by Chilli; 09-25-2009, 07:26 AM.
                  Mike Chirillo
                  www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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                  • Ub Hauled
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3031

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jantagg
                    To quote the technician from Castle. "The bigger the spark the better". No spark means the caps are shot so, be prepared for a ESC fire.
                    a big spark may mean the caps are working but it also hurts it... it's a big jolt.
                    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                    • jantagg
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 187

                      #11
                      Hell, I am just a poor boat builder. I don't know beans about electricity. All I can say is that when I inquried about the subject with the Castle tech. guy, he did not recommend the use of arrestors.

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                      • Ub Hauled
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3031

                        #12
                        Joe Ford not only recommended it but he suggested it for the next line of ESCs (according to him).
                        The person that you spoke about may have been only a sales person (no disrespect to sales people).
                        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                        • Eggy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 152

                          #13
                          Etti is recommending use arrestors but Castle and Schulze do not recommend them.

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                          • Gerwin Brommer
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 918

                            #14
                            In the latest Schulze, the anti-spark is build-in .

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                            • DISAR
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1072

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eggy
                              Etti is recommending use arrestors but Castle and Schulze do not recommend them.
                              MGM also recommends spark arrestors. What arrestor ETTI recommends?
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