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  • NitroVal
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 423

    #1

    Capacitors

    What does adding extra capacitors do for the ESC? Any downsides to addkng more?
    The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
    Now with 540s- 62mph
    New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    no downside in adding more, unless you think using more space a down side.
    they serve to "equalize" the voltage spikes in the ESC, they keep it more consistent.
    It really helps.
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • NitroVal
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 423

      #3
      Do they increase the current iutput at all or allow you to run more cells?
      How hard are they to install?
      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
      Now with 540s- 62mph
      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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      • Ub Hauled
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2007
        • 3031

        #4
        do not increase the input, do not allow for more cells...
        they are easy to install...

        they charge up and hold voltage when you hook the main cells.
        They will always do that... think of it kinda like a camera's flash, but constant instead of one burst.
        They keep charging over and over once the ESC demands the power that's stored in them.
        :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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        • G Doggett
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 446

          #5
          Simple explanation - they soak up the voltage spikes that can damage you ESC and motor.
          Graham.

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          • NitroVal
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 423

            #6
            Ok, so the sole purpose they serve is safety
            The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
            Now with 540s- 62mph
            New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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            • Ub Hauled
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2007
              • 3031

              #7
              Originally posted by G Doggett
              Simple explanation - they soak up the voltage spikes that can damage you ESC and motor.
              Graham.
              Bingo.... thanks...
              :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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              • Ub Hauled
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2007
                • 3031

                #8
                Originally posted by NitroVal
                Ok, so the sole purpose they serve is safety
                safety of your equipment and ultimately you.
                :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                • domwilson
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4408

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NitroVal
                  What does adding extra capacitors do for the ESC? Any downsides to addkng more?
                  They do a number of things.
                  They are for power conditioning. Minimizing or removing ripple from the power source under high current demands.
                  In addition, with capacitors in parallel, they increase the filter capacitance of the ESC and lower the ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance).
                  simplified, in the ESC's circuit, think of them as little reservoirs of electricity. Too much capacitance can be detrimental as it may take too long for the capacitors to charge up.
                  This can be damaging to your batteries as well as some ESC designs.
                  Government Moto:
                  "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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                  • mickvk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 213

                    #10
                    I'll take a shot at putting it in layman's terms as I understand it. When you punch the throttle, there's obviously a spike in demand or draw. That causes a dip in voltage. If the dip is severe, it could cause a ripple and that could cause the ESC to fail.

                    A capacitor is used to help prevent this. The capacitor "fills" at battery pack speed, but depletes much faster, so it does a good job of handling instantaneous spikes in demand.

                    The same implementation is done for car stereo amplifiers. It allows the battery to supply a steady current while a bass notes take instantaneous spikes.

                    Come to think of it, when I use a CD burner on my computer, the same concept is used. The read and write buffers are small fast areas of memory (like a capacitor) which handles variations from the CD burner's rated speed (like the battery pack discharge limit).

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                    • NitroVal
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 423

                      #11
                      So how can you tell you need/dont need them?
                      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                      Now with 540s- 62mph
                      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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                      • Flying Scotsman
                        Fast Electric Adict!
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 5190

                        #12
                        If the ESC was designed for any other use than a boat. It would be prudent to add them and even then you can not go wrong with adding more to a boat designed ESC. Unless it has been enginered and designed by the Germans!

                        Douggie
                        Last edited by Flying Scotsman; 08-31-2009, 05:43 PM.

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