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  • T.S.Davis
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2009
    • 6220

    #1

    Spektrum DSM2

    Hoping someone with more knowledge than myself will see this.

    My understanding is that the MR3000 and the MR200 are being discontinued.

    The SR310, SR410, and SR4210 have Reliacoat and should be relatively resistant. However, both are DSMR and not DSM2.

    So they are not compatible with the DSM2 radios many of us own that were running the MR series receivers. The new DSMR radios will bind to the older MR rx's but the old radio wont bind to the new DSMR rx's.

    So the question is, what are we supposed to be using with our DSM2 radios? Only thing I found (that they still make) on the website was an SR3300T which I believe has the little tiny short antenna.
    Noisy person
  • jfrancisco892
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 546

    #2
    Would like to see the answer to this.

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    • tlandauer
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 5666

      #3
      Originally posted by jfrancisco892
      Would like to see the answer to this.
      Same here.
      I am not sure about using the SR3300T but I have heard good things about the SR 410 rx. So in anticipation ( I found out the discontinuation of the MR200 awhile ago) I bought this tx, I like it, reasonably priced for my needs. And is backward compatible with the MR200 and3000 rx.

      IMO at this point for me it is better to get a tx that is forward/backward compatible than worrying about having to select a certain rx which is on clearance sale----another sign that it might be discontinued soon.
      just saying........
      Too many boats, not enough time...

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      • T.S.Davis
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2009
        • 6220

        #4
        We have a number of guys running the 4c. It's a great controller.

        I'm kinda feeling slighted to be honest. Designed obsolescence doesn't set well with me. By all means....... develop new technology. Move forward. Advancement drives the planet IMO. I love getting new stuff when I can do it (and I did BTW). I'm a "latest techno" slappy as much as anyone. More probably. But don't abandon your existing client base and leave us hang'n.

        DSM2 worked really well. Perfectly in my experience. Making RX's nearly impossible to locate will put people in a position to have to make a decision.

        "Do I buy a new TX from the company that left me high and dry? I mean they don't make marine specific stuff anymore. Maybe I go Airtronik? At least they have marine RX's." That's not what I did. I won't run AT because of who is on their "team".

        This just smells bad to me. I want desperately to be wrong as I am truly a Spekky fan boy.
        Noisy person

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        • Heath M
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 806

          #5
          Interesting, I have both the DSM2 radio and DSMR radio, I know the new radio binds to the DSM2 receivers ok. Will have to check the other way around.
          Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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          • T.S.Davis
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2009
            • 6220

            #6
            Yeah, we tried it. Doesn't work the other way around. So when the DSM Rx's dry up it goes in the dumpster I guess.
            Noisy person

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            • ron1950
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2010
              • 3024

              #7
              So with my dx3r pro am i still pitching or am i out of the game? Will it wirk with dx3rpro or what?
              MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
              74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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              • T.S.Davis
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2009
                • 6220

                #8
                I don't know what the plan is.

                I have a DX3r and it is not compatible with the 310,410, or 4210.

                Are my days numbered with it? IDK either.
                Noisy person

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                • NativePaul
                  Greased Weasel
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2760

                  #9
                  I am pretty sure Spektrum want you to buy a new radio instead of using your existing one.

                  DSM2 is infinitely better than DSM, it is fine for the vast majority of the people, places and times, and has great quality control unlike the Chinese brands, so bad sets are very few and far between, but the DSM2 link is still not as good as Futaba, Hitec/Multiplex or FrSky as it doesn't hop. I have seen a few posts about range problems or blackspots with Spektrum on here but none for Futaba or Hitec/Multiplex, (some also with FrSky, but I believe that to be down to poor Chinese QC on cheap products rather than the link protocol). It sounds Like with DSMR Spectrum have finally come up with a truly competitive RC link protocol, they have made the TX backwards compatible with DSM2, as it is a big and expensive bit of kit, but the change from a static link to a frequency hopping link is not a small one that can be done with a reflash, I suspect having a RX capable of doing both use much more pcb space which would make it uncompetitive on size, weight, and cost fronts.

                  I hope for the sake of existing users like you that they will keep a low end 2 and 6 channel DSM2 RX in their line up for a few years before they get discontinued. There are always the Orange etc Chinese knockoff RXs if Spektrum are short sighted enough to discontinue them sooner than they should, but then you are running the risk of cheap Chinese QC again.
                  Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                  • tlandauer
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 5666

                    #10
                    It is a bit off topic here, but is there a difference between FrSky and FlySky? They are all from China, I am so confused, is it the same maker? At first I thought it was typos and being from China myself I though they can't pronounce the difference between "R" and "L", but much to my surprise it is not a typo. I ask because I got into multi drones and I learned that the FrSky is really a good radio , has much better regard than FlySky. So is there a surface radio that is made by FrSky??
                    Sorry, guys......
                    Too many boats, not enough time...

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                    • Heath M
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 806

                      #11
                      Have you tried asking spektrum about this issue?
                      Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6220

                        #12
                        I guess I'll have to. I had hoped someone in the know would have some input.

                        I'd never experienced a black spot with my DSM or my DSM2. Maybe I was just lucky. I've heard the same hit or miss stories in the FlySky. The bulk of our club runs DSM2 with almost no problems. IDK why it works so well here.

                        The new 410 is a PAI because the antenna is so short. I had placed it in my designated spot in my mono and stuffed the wire into the normal tube. It being so short there was more wire in the boat than in the tube. A lap in and it had fallen down inside the carbon fiber boat and lost signal. So relocation was necessary. Then the ESC wire was too far away. Used an extension. Those of course suck. Ugh.
                        Noisy person

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                        • ron1950
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3024

                          #13
                          wrote to Andy K but he hasent been on lately

                          went to horizon web site and it says dx4r pro no longer available what the hell is going on????
                          Last edited by ron1950; 07-27-2015, 11:27 PM.
                          MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
                          74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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                          • Heath M
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 806

                            #14
                            Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                            I guess I'll have to. I had hoped someone in the know would have some input.

                            I'd never experienced a black spot with my DSM or my DSM2. Maybe I was just lucky. I've heard the same hit or miss stories in the FlySky. The bulk of our club runs DSM2 with almost no problems. IDK why it works so well here.

                            The new 410 is a PAI because the antenna is so short. I had placed it in my designated spot in my mono and stuffed the wire into the normal tube. It being so short there was more wire in the boat than in the tube. A lap in and it had fallen down inside the carbon fiber boat and lost signal. So relocation was necessary. Then the ESC wire was too far away. Used an extension. Those of course suck. Ugh.
                            I had the same issue, so stripped back the wire and soldered it to the tab of an external whip antenna. Touch wood it's worked flawlessly.
                            Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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                            • T.S.Davis
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6220

                              #15
                              Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                              I'd never experienced a black spot with my DSM or my DSM2.
                              More on that......

                              I've run the DSM2 protocol all over the country. Georgia, AZ, MI, up in the mountains of Colorado. Even into Canada but that was pretty close to home for me. Never had a connectivity issue.

                              That's not an indication that it was perfect. People have clearly had issues but I've not seen them myself.
                              Noisy person

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