what to do with 2.4 RX antenna?

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  • kwiktsi
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 578

    #1

    what to do with 2.4 RX antenna?

    I have been out of the loop for a while. While all my older boats are on 75mhz, I am converting some and setting my new ones up on a 2.4 system. The couple of boats that I have already converted, I was able to mount the RX in a spot where I got most of the wire into a shortened external antenna tube. A couple of the other boats, there is no way to get the wire to the existing antenna mounts due to RX location and also the new boats- since they are not drilled yet, I would rather not if it's not necessary.

    Trying to search here and some other sites and have seen both- some guys keep the antenna in the hull, others say you can't do that. What is the general consensus here? These are 32" and smaller hulls, all FG, no CF. Thanks.
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  • Rocstar
    Joel Mertz
    • Jun 2012
    • 1509

    #2
    I have ran with the antenna inside a FG hull with no issues as long as its above the water line. Some Tatic RXs don't have an antenna at all. A CF hull will block the signal however and an external antenna is required.
    "There's nothing else I really want to do other than get up and build boats." - Mike Fiore

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    • gb tiggycat
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 70

      #3
      You can get extended length antennas for Futaba and I believe Orange receivers over here in the UK to allow you to run out above deck

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      • kwiktsi
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 578

        #4
        Originally posted by Rocstar22
        I have ran with the antenna inside a FG hull with no issues as long as its above the water line. Some Tatic RXs don't have an antenna at all. A CF hull will block the signal however and an external antenna is required.
        That's kind of the idea I'm getting from searching around as well- as long as it's a glass hull and above the water line, it's good- just wanted to verify. How about roost spray and such, does that affect signal? A couple of my boats, the RX is mounted up under the deck by the transom- would the antenna be ok there or can the spray cause problems (I don't know, act like a wall blocking the signal or something)? Sorry for the newbish questions, been using 2.4 on my planes for a while now but no experience with it in boats so I'd rather ask than do something that will cause problems.


        Originally posted by gb tiggycat
        You can get extended length antennas for Futaba and I believe Orange receivers over here in the UK to allow you to run out above deck
        I'll have to see what is out there, thanks.
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        • Chilli
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jan 2008
          • 3070

          #5
          Futaba always recommends running an external antenna though some run theirs internally without problems. You've just got ask yourself if it's worth the risk..
          Mike Chirillo
          www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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          • Peter A
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Sep 2012
            • 1486

            #6
            I run HK gtb2 cheapie radio, recievers cost a few bucks. I haven't had a single problem in over a year and a half even when the antenna wire is left inside the hull. Range is around 200m +/-, but our pond doesn't let you get far enough away.
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            • J.W. Pepper

              #7
              Here's an idea... http://www.tacticrc.com/tacj0245.html

              The receiver's don't have external antenna's, it's built in, like modern cell phones.

              I've got 5 of those systems, all work great.

              They show up in the swap shop on a frequent basis with price's in the $40 range - got a couple of mine that way.

              Happy Boating

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              • lackabucks1
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 47

                #8
                I have a cheepo HK plane receiver with about a 2" antenna in one of my boats. Just stood it vertical inside hull and no range problems at all. As long as antenna is above waterline its fine. Wouldn't try this in a hull with a lot of carbon fiber though.

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                • kwiktsi
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 578

                  #9
                  Cool, thanks guys. I am actually using a cheap FlySky GT3B, so same RX as the HK I believe? So far the boats I have converted have the antenna exiting the hull, but the next one won't be as easy. I'll leave it in and see how it works out. Thanks again.
                  Joe
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                  • J.W. Pepper

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kwiktsi
                    Cool, thanks guys. I am actually using a cheap FlySky GT3B, so same RX as the HK I believe? So far the boats I have converted have the antenna exiting the hull, but the next one won't be as easy. I'll leave it in and see how it works out. Thanks again.
                    Joe
                    Joe,
                    I was having range issues with one of my boats last summer. It came with the tactic radio, so no antenna hole and like you I didn't want to drill one.

                    Anyways, long story short I tried the Axial AX-3 system, wrapped the antenna wire around the receiver box under the top lip (hope that makes sense) and secured it with hatch tape. I was able to send the boat (27") out as far as the eye could see without any glitches.

                    Somewhere I seem to remember reading on one of the forums that the Axial system is basically a re-badged FlySky. I don't know if that's true or not, just sayin...

                    BTW: I have no experience with CF hulls or ones that have been reinforced with it, so I gotta go along with those members that have experience.

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                    • J.W. Pepper

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rocstar22
                      I have ran with the antenna inside a FG hull with no issues as long as its above the water line. Some Tatic RXs don't have an antenna at all. A CF hull will block the signal however and an external antenna is required.
                      Thanks for bringing that up!! Since all but one of my radios is a Tactic.

                      The Rx's without an antenna are model number TR-324. They have a model TR-624 (6-chan) that has a short (30cm) external antenna.

                      Do you think a CF hull or one reinforced with it would have the same / similar issues with the TR-624 Rx as the TR-324??

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                      • Rocstar
                        Joel Mertz
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1509

                        #12
                        Originally posted by J.W. Pepper
                        Thanks for bringing that up!! Since all but one of my radios is a Tactic.

                        The Rx's without an antenna are model number TR-324. They have a model TR-624 (6-chan) that has a short (30cm) external antenna.

                        Do you think a CF hull or one reinforced with it would have the same / similar issues with the TR-624 Rx as the TR-324??
                        Any conductive material will block a radio signal (carbon fiber is conductive). As long as the antenna is outside the CF hull it will work. When is doubt, mount an external antenna.
                        "There's nothing else I really want to do other than get up and build boats." - Mike Fiore

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                        • J.W. Pepper

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rocstar22
                          Any conductive material will block a radio signal (carbon fiber is conductive). As long as the antenna is outside the CF hull it will work. When is doubt, mount an external antenna.
                          Joel
                          Thanks for the info - much appreciated!!

                          I haven't graduated to CF hulls yet, and I'll stick with fiberglass to reinforce my hulls. CF definely looks cool, probably stronger too, but I don't like external antenna's - just a personal preference.

                          BTW: I made a typo regarding the antenna length of the Tactic TR-624 - it's 30mm not 30cm - my bad, sorry.

                          Regards,

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