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  • Grimracer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 662

    #46
    Steven... not slamming my friend.... just taking what I know and have experienced and applying it to the conversation.

    And

    Im DIE HARD CHEVY TO THE END!.. OK AMC too!..

    I might be wrong.but . Competition is GOOD and healthy for our hobby and our spirit.

    And I have LOST WAY MORE races then i have ever won and ever WILL WIN.. .. just part of the drive for the passion..

    Take care brother Steve and please.. dont take the radio stuff to much to heart.. we play.. but we play HARD!

    Grim

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    • JimClark
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 5907

      #47
      Grim just wondering is there any relationship between AQ and Futaba or are they totally separate companies?. You are definitely sponsored by Futaba Correct?
      "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
      Billy Graham

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      • Doug Smock
        Moderator
        • Apr 2007
        • 5272

        #48
        Just say no Doug!!

        Thanks.....................................

        Your welcome guys! lol
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        • ron1950
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2010
          • 3024

          #49
          to me if u work for spectrum or horrizon or futaba or are sponsored by either your opinion doesent count. money talks.....so it boils down to what do u like? i am sure either are fine...i just like spectrum ...had to get that in there lol
          MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
          74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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          • don ferrette
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 1093

            #50
            Originally posted by ron1950
            to me if u work for spectrum or horrizon or futaba or are sponsored by either your opinion doesent count. money talks.....so it boils down to what do u like? i am sure either are fine...i just like spectrum ...had to get that in there lol
            Really?

            So I guess that means Steve's comments about anything he sells in the OSE store don't count either.

            I just joined the Futaba Marine Team this year but I'm sure that running Futaba radios for like 15 years had absolutely nothing to do with it......

            Money? What money??
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            • JimClark
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 5907

              #51
              Don probably not as Steve sells both brands
              "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
              Billy Graham

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              • ron1950
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 3024

                #52
                ya so there lol
                MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
                74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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                • Steven Vaccaro
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8723

                  #53
                  Sure he should have used some foam, but in the end We are guessing at reasons for failure. The switch and battery was fine, the radio was working when they picked up the boat.

                  In the end we are all biased for some reason. Sure I'm biased towards Spektrum. I tend to push what I use personally. Between my boys and I, we have well over 30 rx's and 4 rx's. All have served me well.
                  Steven Vaccaro

                  Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                  • don ferrette
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1093

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
                    Sure he should have used some foam, but in the end We are guessing at reasons for failure. The switch and battery was fine, the radio was working when they picked up the boat.

                    In the end we are all biased for some reason. Sure I'm biased towards Spektrum. I tend to push what I use personally. Between my boys and I, we have well over 30 rx's and 4 rx's. All have served me well.
                    Yup just like you guessed when you gave this thread it's title. I'll still put my money on either the switch or the RX getting beat around like a ping pong ball, to leave one free like that is just plain stupid. And I'll tell you know most times over the years when I've seen a switch turn out to be the source for mystery radio issues it still "worked fine" when the problems first showed up. And how do you know the battery was "fine" did anyone load test it right after the crash??

                    My choice of radio gear is based on many years of superb service and that speaks louder than anything to me. Becoming a member of Team Futaba was just icing on the cake.

                    You guys have a great evening, it's way past my bedtime.
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                    - IMPBA Hydro Technical Director -

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                    • ron1950
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3024

                      #55
                      My choice of radio gear is based on many years of superb service and that speaks louder than anything to me. Becoming a member of Team Futaba was just icing on the cake


                      many years of futaba service ...sounds as if u broke a bunch of em lol had to say it ......now lets get on doug for his 60amp non spec esc's in the regieon this can go on all week lol
                      MY RETIREMENT PLAN?????.....POWERBALL
                      74 vintage kirby clasic hydro, pursuit mono, mg, 47'' mono, popeye hydro...

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8335

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ron1950
                        to me if u work for spectrum or horrizon or futaba or are sponsored by either your opinion doesent count. money talks.....so it boils down to what do u like? i am sure either are fine...i just like spectrum ...had to get that in there lol
                        Ron... that really is a silly thing to say. Very few people have as much experience with the product as those that have been using it since before most of you could.

                        This bias towards "sponsored drivers" is really getting out of hand.

                        If you read my deal with Horizon, you'll find that the main point is to have racers in different areas of the country who can be there to help, provide advice, and put the products on display so people will know they are out there.

                        All you have EVER seen, or will see me do is provide introductary information, and provide follow-up help as much as possible. Hell, I've even gone so far as to drive across town and trade my PERSONAL TX to a racer who had broken his. THAT is why we are supported by these manufacturers, or at least that's what is expected of me from Team Horizon and Spektrum. It's a good thing for the hobby, if it's not abused.
                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9472

                          #57
                          Originally posted by properchopper
                          It takes 8 AA's. Because the screen autodims after about ten seconds it's hard to see if it's on or off. I've eaten three sets of AA's by not noticing that it was still on until I did the following :



                          I also installed a 2200 mAh lipo for power

                          I'm waiting to see if the radio is "too good to be true" at that price. So far, so good !
                          How did you do it sir?

                          I see guys that always have wet boats, always have some failures. Replace your switches every year and have allot less headaches.
                          Nortavlag Bulc

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                          • graill
                            Retired
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 389

                            #58
                            Originally posted by AndyKunz
                            Don't assume that ALL 2.4's have the same limitations as your radio, Don.

                            Spektrum has receivers that are quite water-resistant and DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR BOAT USE.

                            Spektrum receivers do not have problems with heat. We have published reports of them baking in ovens, working perfectly well, long after the plastic covers are useless.

                            Spektrum is used successfully in ignition-powered vehicles without any more protection than what would have been used in 72 MHz (usually with less).

                            Most of your other points I agree with - especially the $50 radio in the $1500 boat point.

                            I will still use my Spektrum radios in all my airplanes and boats. But then, I'm just a week bit prejudiced since I work on the design team.

                            Andy
                            After reading your claims Andy i hunted down a Spectrum rep, I was told oven claim isnt accurate and spectrum could not tell me where that source was from. Also any electronics tested by heating up and then cooling off to see if it works is missing the point of the heat test in the first place as it needs to be operating at your stated "oven temp" and have no problems many cycles and hundreds of hours before they can claim heat does not affect them.

                            Who in spectrum provided you with the white paper on those tests? I tossed your name around stating you are on their design team and got nothing, them not knowing who you were, maybe i had some newguy or there is another facility.

                            And for the record i have both Futaba and Spectrum, though i prefer Fubies, both have had minor failures or glitches, though nothing serious and its to be expected.

                            Too many things can go wrong for anyone to agree on, on either side.

                            An observation by me to throw into the discussion,
                            We also have the folks working for or representing these products pushing them to the hobbiest stating one is better than the other in order to sell them, both sides biased toward the other, even had one guy representing his brand, pushing his sponors products stating he wasnt pushing them after i asked a question he could not answer, not sure if he was ashamed or not. We as consumers will pick through the hype of sponsors and sellers and choose what we want, most of us anyway.

                            Personally i have zero problems with either sides products and will continue to buy them as needed as both have served me well......of course there is me and the flying thing, those recievers just cannot take ground impacts......(grin)

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                            • Steven Vaccaro
                              Administrator
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8723

                              #59
                              Originally posted by don ferrette
                              Yup just like you guessed when you gave this thread it's title. I'll still put my money on either the switch or the RX getting beat around like a ping pong ball, to leave one free like that is just plain stupid. And I'll tell you know most times over the years when I've seen a switch turn out to be the source for mystery radio issues it still "worked fine" when the problems first showed up. And how do you know the battery was "fine" did anyone load test it right after the crash??

                              My choice of radio gear is based on many years of superb service and that speaks louder than anything to me. Becoming a member of Team Futaba was just icing on the cake.

                              You guys have a great evening, it's way past my bedtime.
                              Don its not bouncing around. It was in these with velcro. They tested it with some Hobbico rx meter.
                              Steven Vaccaro

                              Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                              • graill
                                Retired
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 389

                                #60
                                Hmm how did that double post?, meh.

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