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  • tharmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 342

    #31
    Hi Darrin,
    Thanks for the reply. Here's more data:

    TX: DX3s purchased about a month ago
    RX: SR3300T

    RX is located inside a 1/7th scale FE hull. Standard 3.5" antenna extended inside the hull and covered by a 1/16 piece of ply (Receiver box cover).
    Telemetry is not being used
    No part of the hull is CF
    Power is 5 cell NiMH

    At about 250 feet the ESC shut down. When the boat rotated due to the wind, the receiver woke up again and I was able to get the boat back. Sometimes you just get lucky!

    I see 12" piano wire external antennas on lots of boats and maybe the limited range is why.

    -t

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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #32
      Originally posted by tharmer
      Hi Darrin,
      Thanks for the reply. Here's more data:

      TX: DX3s purchased about a month ago
      RX: SR3300T

      RX is located inside a 1/7th scale FE hull. Standard 3.5" antenna extended inside the hull and covered by a 1/16 piece of ply (Receiver box cover).
      Telemetry is not being used
      No part of the hull is CF
      Power is 5 cell NiMH
      I haven't tried this particular RX, but one thing I do know about all of these is that the antenna must exit the hull. The only real part of the antenna lead that is "antenna" is the last 1" or so (the silver part that looks like the insultion has been stripped off"

      I haven't tried the SR3100 or the MR3000 without having the antenna exit the hull. One of these days, I'm going to give it a shot, but for now, I extend them fully outside of the hull and as high up as possible.
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • tharmer
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 342

        #33
        That's what I thought. I never have to do it with my airplane transmatter (JR10X) and the parkflyer receivers I use.

        -t

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #34
          Originally posted by tharmer
          That's what I thought. I never have to do it with my airplane transmatter (JR10X) and the parkflyer receivers I use.

          -t
          Over water is an entirely different deal... The signals close to the water get antenuated and lose strength... or as it was explained to me, the signal gets "drawn down" and loses range quickly. You need to get the antenna up off the water as high as possible, especially with the "older" form-factor surface RXs. The new MR3000 has a LONG main antenna, just for this reason.

          I hate antenna tubes as much as the next guy, which is why I always used Hayes whip antennas, but running the antenna like this seems to be the way to go.
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • tharmer
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 342

            #35
            Good info. Thanks, Darrin. I understand better now. Maybe I'll get the marine receiver.
            -t

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            • Darin Jordan
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 8335

              #36
              Originally posted by tharmer
              Good info. Thanks, Darrin. I understand better now. Maybe I'll get the marine receiver.
              -t
              Make sure you upgrade the TX at the same time...

              I agree that that is a PAIN, especially after JUST purchasing it.
              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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              • AndyKunz
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2008
                • 1437

                #37
                The Surface (SR-series rx) protocol is lower power than the Marine and Aircraft protocols. If you want to run a Surface receiver in a boat, I'd recommend something like the SR3100 as you can get the active portion of the antenna up and away from the hull and water. The SR300 has a different type of antenna which is active the whole length, and you'd have to put it up high on the boat to get the same performance.

                Andy
                Spektrum Development Team

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                • tharmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 342

                  #38
                  Thanks, Andy. My DX3S radio TX is marine capable (has the marine logo on it) so I assume I can just get a marine RX and be good to go.

                  -t

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                  • AndyKunz
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1437

                    #39
                    Yup! Have a blast with it!

                    Andy
                    Spektrum Development Team

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                    • T.S.Davis
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6221

                      #40
                      I've used Futaba, Hitec, JR, Tactic, and Spektrum.

                      I haven't messed with a Futaba in years.

                      My Hitecs had nice features but I didn't trust them. Too many issues I couldn't explain.

                      The JR XS3 Pro is a great radio but it's made it to old school status IMO. The cloth grip cover that came with my JR was pretty sweet.

                      I checked out an Airtronics at the NATS and it just didn't feel good. I might have been able to get used to it. A little heavy for me though.

                      The Tactic is a great deal but not as nice a fit with my hand and almost no features.

                      Comfort is kind of a big deal to me. That's just me though. It has to work but it has to feel good too. My new Spektrum is the most comfortable in the hand so far with JR XS 3 Pro being a close second. I haven't had any range issues yet with the Spektrum marine setup. Pretty sweet so far. Comfy and it works.

                      Andy, does the new radio have the killer menu system? I love that on the S radio.
                      Noisy person

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                      • Darin Jordan
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 8335

                        #41
                        Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                        My new Spektrum is the most comfortable in the hand so far with JR XS 3 Pro being a close second. I haven't had any range issues yet with the Spektrum marine setup. Pretty sweet so far. Comfy and it works.
                        Spektrum also makes different sized rubber inserts for the handles, so you can make the grips smaller or larger if needed...

                        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                        • AndyKunz
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1437

                          #42
                          Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                          Andy, does the new radio have the killer menu system? I love that on the S radio.
                          The DX3E doesn't have a menu or even an LCD. The adjustments are pots that run down the center of the top of the transmitter. If you look at the picture closely, you can see the tops sticking out. They have knurled tops, so you don't need a screwdriver to adjust them.

                          "E" is for "ECONOMY" so they really aren't intended for most racers. I would expect the RTR type guys to get them as a one-step-up radio.

                          Andy
                          Spektrum Development Team

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                          • T.S.Davis
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6221

                            #43
                            A monkey could work that S menu. Maybe that's why I like it so well.

                            Not everyone needs that much. Does it run on 4aa like the others? That's really convienient compared to 8 aa.

                            That reminds me. A 2s Lipo option sure would be sweet for all the radios.
                            Noisy person

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                            • AndyKunz
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1437

                              #44
                              4 cells is what we use in all our new stuff.

                              Andy
                              Spektrum Development Team

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                              • T.S.Davis
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6221

                                #45
                                It's a small thing but when you run for a whole weekend and have to replace 8 AA's multiple times it get's annoying. 4 is better.
                                Noisy person

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