Motor for MHZ Chaparral

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  • Skeet
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 15

    #1

    Motor for MHZ Chaparral

    I have done searches and a lot of reading here on motor choice for large monos. I am still a little confused on motor choice. I plan to run on 12s and would like your opinions on motor choice. I prefer to use TP motor and have been looking at the 600kv and 720kv. Four or 5 minute runs are fine with me. Would also like to run in the 60s. Thanks
  • jkflow
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2021
    • 329

    #2
    Almost copied this from another answer I just gave but edited for your numbers.
    Typical recommendation I see is that you want ~ 25-35000 rpm on the prop, and you should dial in with prop size.

    In simple math, you can multiply the kV by the voltage (12S = 12*4V) 48*600 = 28800 rpm. You actually get roughly 90-95% as it's a theoretical value.
    Roughly 26000 rpm for a 600kV. I would go a little higher (720-800kV).
    Can't advise on prop size. Above is based on simple math, others might have better ideas on your specific need.

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    • Alfa Spirit
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2009
      • 2131

      #3
      This is not a small mono, lenght is 1310mm, with one motor TPPower 5670 - 5Y - 768kV with 12S Battery.

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      • donhuff
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 561

        #4
        "You actually get roughly 90-95% as it's a theoretical value."

        Can I ask what you mean by that statement? If we need to start a new thread, please do so.
        AmpDaddy
        don huff

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        • RaceMechaniX
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2007
          • 2821

          #5
          On a big mono like this you want to run a lower kv and use larger props that align with gas boats. So 60-75mm. I would shoot for 20-22kRPM loaded with a KV range between 580-650Kv. I use a more conservative KV calculation using 3.7V per cell under load and multiply by .85 to take into account average motor efficiency.

          The TP5670 would be a good choice. A 10D is on the higher KV side, a 6Y would be ideal but it's a special order based on what I see in stock today.
          Tyler Garrard
          NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
          T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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          • jkflow
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2021
            • 329

            #6
            kV rating by definition is applying a mechanical force until the motor (acting as a generator) reaches a 1V output.

            We use kV in the reverse and need to take all the losses into account. Typically, that is within 5% of the listed rating.
            In addition, the motor itself is manufactured with ~ 5% tolerance on the kV rating, unless it's a super precision custom build version.
            Hence, the 5-10% approximation on kV rating.

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            • Alfa Spirit
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2009
              • 2131

              #7
              Originally posted by jkflow
              Almost copied this from another answer I just gave but edited for your numbers.
              Typical recommendation I see is that you want ~ 25-35000 rpm on the prop, and you should dial in with prop size.

              In simple math, you can multiply the kV by the voltage (12S = 12*4V) 48*600 = 28800 rpm. You actually get roughly 90-95% as it's a theoretical value.
              Roughly 26000 rpm for a 600kV. I would go a little higher (720-800kV).
              Can't advise on prop size. Above is based on simple math, others might have better ideas on your specific need.
              Why do you count 4 Volts?
              4Volts is the voltage after charging process. When the battery is loaded and deliver current the voltage goes down to the nominal value = 3,7 Volts.

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              • jkflow
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2021
                • 329

                #8
                Pick whatever voltage value you want. The 4V was just an example to keep it simple.
                Usually people subtract an entire cell to account for drops.

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