P Mono Motor Question - Castle 1515 2200KV, NEU 1527 2300kv TP Power 2200KV?

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  • Finest Racing
    In the Fast Lane
    • May 2013
    • 294

    #1

    P Mono Motor Question - Castle 1515 2200KV, NEU 1527 2300kv TP Power 2200KV?

    Before I made this post I did my best to search to make sure I was not duplicating a question that has been asked many times. I am building a P Mono for NAMBA. The boat is a Pursuit. I have a Castle 1515 2200KV which has gone mid 50's on 4s 2P. I did not have it propped up enough before I tried a different motor. The weather is now 30 degrees (F) as a high. Not sure when I can go back out to test the Castle again, I do have it in the boat with batteries charged and ready to go. I think I may bite the bullet and go Monday to try the Castle. I am biting my nails not knowing the limits. I understand that this is not the ideal racing conditions. Water and air temps are very low. I ran the boat for a hard 6 minutes the other day and the motor was 47 degrees. LOL

    I am wondering if anyone can voice there experience from the above motors being used in a 32" mono for lap racing.

    My goal is high 50's to low 60's without burning up the motor or ESC. Looking for longevity. I know there is a huge price difference but price is not always the answer.

    Future goal would be to have the boat dialed in to run at the FE Nationals.

    Thank you
    Rob
  • Peter A
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2012
    • 1487

    #2
    Hi Rob
    I have run a TP 4060 2200 kv in my Pursuit, and with 4s 2p it will turn a 547 prop and give speeds around 60. I have found that the extra weight of paralleled batts is not detrimental at all but helps keep the boat stable at speed and in rough water. My 0.02. I cannot tell you if the castle or Neu motors will be better as I have no experience with them.
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    2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
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    • Finest Racing
      In the Fast Lane
      • May 2013
      • 294

      #3
      Originally posted by Peter A
      Hi Rob
      I have run a TP 4060 2200 kv in my Pursuit, and with 4s 2p it will turn a 547 prop and give speeds around 60. I have found that the extra weight of paralleled batts is not detrimental at all but helps keep the boat stable at speed and in rough water. My 0.02. I cannot tell you if the castle or Neu motors will be better as I have no experience with them.
      Thank you Peter for your personal experience using the TP 4060 2200KV.

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      • Make-a-Wake
        FE Rules!
        • Nov 2009
        • 5557

        #4
        I assume you are referring to the TP 4070 by the 2200kv you mentioned?

        The Castle 1515 is completely out of its league in this list of three, wont even come close to keeping up. The TP 4070 2200kv(if that is what you are referencing) is a beast, and the 1527 Neu..............well, top notch, and will edge out the 4070 as well. If you are referring to a 4050 2200kv, its on par with the Castle 1515. 2p is a must amperage-wise and as mentioned will keep the boat planted.
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        • Peter A
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2012
          • 1487

          #5
          It is a 4060. When I purchased it the motor was listed as 2200 kv, it also had a 2200 kv sticker on it. Trying to recollect I think it was a 5d wind, but I'm not 100% about that. However I do wonder if it was labeled wrong as I tested with a rev counter and it worked out at around 2060 kv which would make it more like the 2050 version, which is also a different wind. So I am not sure that it is what I thought that I bought!
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          2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
          BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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          • Make-a-Wake
            FE Rules!
            • Nov 2009
            • 5557

            #6
            I was actually wondering which motor the OP had, but you can find out which one you have by measuring the length. The 4050 is 83mm long(just the can) and offers a 2050kv, that may be it, the 4060 is 92mm long, and the 4070 is 100 mm long. I believe they make a 2200kv in the 4050, a 6D.
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            • Peter A
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2012
              • 1487

              #7
              Ok so I had that wrong in my own head. It is a 4050, but what is confusing is that it had a 2200 kv sticker on it when I got it. It would seem to be the 3Y 2050 kv motor though. It would be great if TP marked the cans with the actual wind so one could tell clearly. Does anyone know how to find out what the actual wind is? I also have a 3640 motor that is 2250 kv. It is a nice motor but it can pull some amps. In the Pursuit the smaller motor pulls more amps and runs way hotter with the same prop
              But is faster with that prop (x437/3). I can't run bigger props with it as it gets to hot.
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              2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
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              • Make-a-Wake
                FE Rules!
                • Nov 2009
                • 5557

                #8
                Winds on motors are never exact, there is a thread on here where someone has a device that can check actual kv and they are all off from stated value. So you may have the 6d 2200kv.

                The 3640 you are mentioning i assume is a 36mm x 40mm length, if so its way too small for the Pursuit and is struggling, therefore the big amp pull as well as the heat.

                My pursuit runs a 4082 Leopard 2200kv and it is quite fast and runs cool on 4s2p.
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                • Peter A
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1487

                  #9
                  No the 3640 TP motor is 71mm long. The 4050 motor does work better in the Pursuit though. I got the smaller motor to fit our ltd rule
                  However that rule changes after our nationals this year and the 4s classes will not have any restrictions on motor. I am thinking of using the 36 mm can motor in a new hydro this year.
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                  2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
                  BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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                  • Brushless55
                    Creator
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9488

                    #10
                    NEU1527
                    is the best choice in the OP
                    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                    • Finest Racing
                      In the Fast Lane
                      • May 2013
                      • 294

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brushless55
                      NEU1527
                      is the best choice in the OP
                      Have you used this motor? I have heard about this motor from a racer. He told me the KV that he was using and was shocked to hear the size. Thannks

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                      • Make-a-Wake
                        FE Rules!
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 5557

                        #12
                        I have had one and it is the best of the three you have listed..................which one do you have in the TP2200..............the 4050?

                        The 1527 is widely used, has top notch components, runs cool and has a proven racing history.
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                        • Finest Racing
                          In the Fast Lane
                          • May 2013
                          • 294

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Make-a-Wake
                          I have had one and it is the best of the three you have listed..................which one do you have in the TP2200..............the 4050?

                          The 1527 is widely used, has top notch components, runs cool and has a proven racing history.
                          I ran the Castle, but did not have it propped up enough to know what the full potential was. Now the lake is frozen which is allowing me to do some research. I head some feedback on the TP which was not that great. Almost as equal or one step above a Leopard motor. Thanks for the info. I am trying to figure what I need to do, all is pointing towards a NEU motor.

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                          • Brushless55
                            Creator
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9488

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Finest Racing
                            Have you used this motor? I have heard about this motor from a racer. He told me the KV that he was using and was shocked to hear the size. Thannks
                            Yes...
                            I had a Leo 4092, then went with a TP4092 2040kv then said what the heck..
                            I wan't to know what the NEU motors are all about and got a 1527, and dang!
                            now I'm just looking for the right prop for my DF33

                            Originally posted by Finest Racing
                            I ran the Castle, but did not have it propped up enough to know what the full potential was. Now the lake is frozen which is allowing me to do some research. I head some feedback on the TP which was not that great. Almost as equal or one step above a Leopard motor. Thanks for the info. I am trying to figure what I need to do, all is pointing towards a NEU motor.
                            agreed
                            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                            • Finest Racing
                              In the Fast Lane
                              • May 2013
                              • 294

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Brushless55
                              Yes...
                              I had a Leo 4092, then went with a TP4092 2040kv then said what the heck..
                              I wan't to know what the NEU motors are all about and got a 1527, and dang!
                              now I'm just looking for the right prop for my DF33



                              agreed
                              Which KV did you use? Toss up with a 2300KV and a 2500KV. I here the 2500KV are used in the FE Nationals.

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