Has anyone run this HOR 6 pole motor?

[crrcboatz]

http://www.horracing.com/product_info.php?cPath=46_70&products_id=586

Wonder where it rates with regard to power, construction, dependability amps draw, props, etc. What hull did u run it in? Is it anywhere near the castle 2028?

[iamandrew]

i think its exactly the same as the one that Hobbyking put out for a while.
ive got the HK one and this motor looks the same

Oh yeah
I was putting mine into a Osprey, but its going to cause issues with battery placement, so i got stuck in a "im not too sure" and its sat there since

[crrcboatz]

i think its exactly the same as the one that Hobbyking put out for a while.
ive got the HK one and this motor looks the same

Oh yeah
I was putting mine into a Osprey, but its going to cause issues with battery placement, so i got stuck in a "im not too sure" and its sat there since

The ones hk has on their site r not 6 pole rather 4 pole.

[ray schrauwen]

It is VERY different from the HK motors.

I have this motor in my 40" Carbon Kevlar Promise mono on 6S2P Dinogy 65C packs and SF240 esc. So far only 2 runs a few weeks ago as it's getting very cold here now.

1st run with X450 D/T and it ran great, second run x447x3 blade prop about the same speed and temps are cold. nothing really got hot. If I get out again I can keep propping up and try a GPS but, I'm quite happy with it. next will be 52mm D/T prop.

i think its exactly the same as the one that Hobbyking put out for a while.
ive got the HK one and this motor looks the same

Oh yeah
I was putting mine into a Osprey, but its going to cause issues with battery placement, so i got stuck in a "im not too sure" and its sat there since

[Brushless55]

Looks a lot like a TP Power motor

[ray schrauwen]

Thats because Johnny had some of the people from TP power work for him to make these specially.

He had a 1000Kv 5694 but, he said some guy in the UK bought them all in one shot!

If the HK black motors were made by TP Power and they were, they are not the same as the SSS. As posted in another thread I had measured them side by side and the SSS 1200kv had a 10mm-13mm longer stack & core. The SSS also has set screws through the Aluminum armature former holding onto a flat spot so the shaft can never spin inside the magnet case. Just built a little tougher with better bearings for higher rpms.

The thing is I've only ran the SSS. This also doesn't mean the HK motors even though made by TP power are as good as the versions FighterCat imported. Maybe TP Power cheaped out on the HK motors and made a 5682 inside a 5692 can?? I'm guessing. I know 1320kv is a different wind from a 1200Kv but, not that much that the stack & core needs to be almost a 1/2" shorter.

[crrcboatz]

Wow, ray there is a lot in that paragraph! Can u sum it up for us newbies to big motors? ie, The SSS or HOR motor is,__________ etc and the Hk motor is _________. I get lost with all that tech stuff. Was considering a motor for a light and I mean light 56" dv I ve had for some time. It does not have the bottom configuration to get beyond 50mph without getting squirrelly so a mid mod g26 would have done fine however am now considering fe for it as it has a high end paint job!!

Thats because Johnny had some of the people from TP power work for him to make these specially.

He had a 1000Kv 5694 but, he said some guy in the UK bought them all in one shot!

If the HK black motors were made by TP Power and they were, they are not the same as the SSS. As posted in another thread I had measured them side by side and the SSS 1200kv had a 10mm-13mm longer stack & core. The SSS also has set screws through the Aluminum armature former holding onto a flat spot so the shaft can never spin inside the magnet case. Just built a little tougher with better bearings for higher rpms.

The thing is I've only ran the SSS. This also doesn't mean the HK motors even though made by TP power are as good as the versions FighterCat imported. Maybe TP Power cheaped out on the HK motors and made a 5682 inside a 5692 can?? I'm guessing. I know 1320kv is a different wind from a 1200Kv but, not that much that the stack & core needs to be almost a 1/2" shorter.

[Punisher 67]

12000 watts.......I honestly got to question that

[ray schrauwen]

I don't really believe it either Peter but, at least they are very well built. I might not find out until spring how hard I can run this 1200kv motor. In the cold water in 2 weeks when we have our last run of the year, I will push the setup some more. I'll try to time my runs to calc. amp draw.

I have a Propshop 57mm 3 blade but, that may be a death sentance for the esc. I'll try 52mm & 55mm 2 blade HK CNC props. If they break I'll try what I have in Octura.

12000 watts.......I honestly got to question that

[ray schrauwen]

I'm not sure of a boat like that but, there are several motors to choose from.

Personally I like the 6 pole motors, TP Power or HOR's SSS version. My friend Bill Fordham runs a 5692- 1100kv TP Power from Kershaw in a cat on 8S and he's very pleased and thats not easy for Bill.

The HK motors were made by TP Power but, supposedly HK stiiffed TP Power on payment or something?? The HK motors were very nice but, the HOR SSS is that much better.

I'm not 100% sure on the proccess of how Leopard and TP Power came to be or what they are now but, I know that Johnny is very straight up and when he says he had some guys from TP Power make motors specifically for him, I tend to believe him. After all I don't know any places besides FighterCat & Kershaw that carry TP Power motors??

TP POwer lists the motor I have from HOR but, no one carry's it but, HOR.

I wish I could see a FC 1300Kv 5692 next to a HK 1320kv 5692. That would clarify it for myself and others how good the black HK 5692's & 5682's were.

Wow, ray there is a lot in that paragraph! Can u sum it up for us newbies to big motors? ie, The SSS or HOR motor is,__________ etc and the Hk motor is _________. I get lost with all that tech stuff. Was considering a motor for a light and I mean light 56" dv I ve had for some time. It does not have the bottom configuration to get beyond 50mph without getting squirrelly so a mid mod g26 would have done fine however am now considering fe for it as it has a high end paint job!!

My 40" boat is the largest I have. The best motor for your project is hard for me to say. Being new at this maybe a Proteus 524 would suffice? You can switch between 600Kv and 1050kv. 12S or 8S respectively.

There is also this HK motor Peter has shown, the silver car motor. This would work well on 10S as it is 760kv http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...tor_760KV.html

Killer motor for the price. Check his threads, he started one on this motor.

[Punisher 67]

Ray every should know that the motor has a 12mm shaft - why they did that I don't know . The fact they advertise it as a 8mm makes me think that they know it probably wont sell so great if they told the truth .

[Make-a-Wake]

No way in hell it puts out 12,000 watts. At 56 x 94, compared to a well built, effiicient Castle 2028 at 56 x 113mm, it will never come close to the 2028 output which I have graphed at over 8000 watts in my Mono(10s) and hydro(9s).

[keithbradley]

Ray, when you say the HOR motors are "that much better", what is it that you feel is better?
As far as who carries/sells TP motors...it's nothing underground. I looked into carrying them on my site and I could get any motor that they make. I chose to go wtih the Sirius motors instead, but could go wtih TP just as easily.

I have a HK "black" 56 series motor here, and have had a few TP motors. The wrap looks different on the HK motors. The one I have seems to run well, but I haven't really challenged it either.

FYI- The props you are running on that boat are pretty small for a can that size IMO. You could do the same thing with a 40mm motor. If you're only running a 1200kv on 6s, you should be able to spin a lot bigger prop than that.
I never really understood running these big motors on LV though...I have some of these Proteus motors that can be wired for 1580kv...I don't see what the point is in having a motor that can handle a greater load if you can't use it.

[Punisher 67]

Ray my friend I have all the respect in the world for you as a avid boater and machinest - but HOR's claims I want to see some hard facts on paper , this is a HOR size motor next to a true 11000 watt motor . I am also a little disapointed in the HK 1/5 buggy motor and I will explain why in a bit here - got to run sorry

[ray schrauwen]

I realize i'm small on the props but, thats because 2 months ago I burnt up $200 worth of bad 4500mah 25C Nano-techs trying to turn a stock 455. After that I figured baby steps and now here comes the cold.

Not only that, I'm looking to run Q-mono & offshore not just balls to the wall speed. Reliable, cold setup, stable and fast enough to keep up with the rest and, well, make a big hole in the water for the other boats too navigate around I could always add 2S to each pack and run it on 8S in open mono. I'm just running out of time to get the hard facts you guys would want.