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  • Shaun78
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 416

    #1

    new leopard 4082 vs used

    New one is hard to spin by hand and my older one spins much easier. Is it worn or just broken in?
    Genesis (Bosncali Geico Beater) Leopard 4082 1500KV
    (63.7 MPH) Traxxas Spartan (same setup)
  • m4a1usr
    Fast Electric Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 2038

    #2
    Originally posted by Shaun78
    New one is hard to spin by hand and my older one spins much easier. Is it worn or just broken in?
    Which 4082? The 2200kv .5Y leopard is known to have some heat issues. It might have a demagnitized rotor. On the other hand its probably alright. I used to worry about equal size motors having the same "cogging" feel. I spoke with Neu about this and they stated its not that simple. Only way to know is to connect each motor to a equal voltage source and do a kv check. If they both spin the same rpm at the same voltage then they are in essence equal motors. I didnt like that answer because it seems to me that there is something else going on but when the factory engineer tells you this, well I guess I have to believe him.

    John
    Change is the one Constant

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    • scoota
      FE DOWN UNDER
      • Dec 2008
      • 409

      #3
      Originally posted by m4a1usr
      Which 4082? The 2200kv .5Y leopard is known to have some heat issues. It might have a demagnitized rotor. On the other hand its probably alright. I used to worry about equal size motors having the same "cogging" feel. I spoke with Neu about this and they stated its not that simple. Only way to know is to connect each motor to a equal voltage source and do a kv check. If they both spin the same rpm at the same voltage then they are in essence equal motors. I didnt like that answer because it seems to me that there is something else going on but when the factory engineer tells you this, well I guess I have to believe him.

      John
      I had heat issues with my 4082 in my DF33 , i drilled vent holes in the end bell like a NEU motor , with very good results !!!!
      UL1- 1515 castle/neu / 240 swordfish
      SV27- with UL1 running gear
      33 Delta Force - 1521-1.5D/Neu/ 240 swordfish/4S2P

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      • m4a1usr
        Fast Electric Addict
        • Nov 2009
        • 2038

        #4
        I guess an easy way to tell if one of the motors has a demgg'd rotor is take the face plate off both and put the rotor out of the one that feels stronger in to the one with the weaker feeling rotor. Might know right off the bat by exchanging rotors.

        John
        Change is the one Constant

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        • bbosncali
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 756

          #5
          The one with less resistance runs great. He's running consistant 60mph passes but I recently ordered a 4082 220kv and not using it at the time so I gave it to hime to try on 5s and he was only getting mid 50's the other motor that he is using is a 1500kv 4082 on 6s. Now according to my calculations he should be spinng about 4500 more rpms with the 5s setup as aposed to the 6s setup which leads me to believe that they need to be broken in. Temps were still good on the 2200kv only around 100 so its not getting that hot. The 1500kv spins almost freely and the 2200 has a ton of resistance.
          miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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          • m4a1usr
            Fast Electric Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 2038

            #6
            Originally posted by bbosncali
            The 1500kv spins almost freely and the 2200 has a ton of resistance.
            Thats weird? You wouldnt think there would be any difference. I know the Neu series motors all use the same rotor. So a 1515/.5Y and 1515/5D (if theres such a critter) all share the same rotors as long as the case length is the same. The winding version has no bearing on which rotor goes in. Same with the Castle 1512 series. The 1Y and 1.5Y share the exact same rotor. So you would think the same of the 4074 series and the 4082. I dont know about the stator plates though. You would think the stator length stays the same, so the magnetic attraction would be similar. The variable could be the air gap should the ID be different.

            John
            Change is the one Constant

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            • bbosncali
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 756

              #7
              Well there bothe 4082 just one is a 1500kv and the other is a 2200kv. Same size motors. It just seems that they have to wear in. To me its like anything if there is resistance then its not going to be upto optimal power. I could be wrong but that's my theory
              miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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              • Jabbo
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 443

                #8
                Just got my leopard 4082 2200kv and is also very hard to turn. Put it in my genesis hopefully can run this weekend let you know how it goes compared to my neu 1515 1y 2200kv that I had in it before.

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                • bbosncali
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 756

                  #9
                  That's what he put it in was his genesis. With a x642 on 5s and only got 55.something but I consistantly running 60 wth a best of 63.7mph with his 4082 1500
                  miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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                  • Jabbo
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 443

                    #10
                    I was ruining 54.7mph in my genesis on my neu with an x645on 4s 2p so it will be interesting to see what the leopard does with the same set up.(i have my neu in my pursuit now and it runs sweet.)

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                    • bbosncali
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 756

                      #11
                      Well I've run a 4074 2200kv 4082 1250 kv cc 1512 1800 and a tacon 4074 2000kv and I'm running a cc 1518 1800kv in it this weekend. So far my tacon has ben the fastest with 63.4 mph wth a x642 crappy run times but it was fun running on 6s. I have high hopes for the cc1518 though
                      miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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                      • Jabbo
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 443

                        #12
                        Can you suggest a good 3 blade prop because I get a lot of torque roll with the 2 blade prop.
                        Thanks
                        Jeff

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                        • bbosncali
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 756

                          #13
                          What size props are you using?
                          miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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                          • Jabbo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 443

                            #14
                            X645

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                            • bbosncali
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 756

                              #15
                              That's a big prop with a lot of pitch. What motor and boat are you using it on?
                              miss gieco cc 1518 62.1mph [/COLOR][/B] Delta Force 33" cc 1717

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