Leopard Hobby 4-Pole CC/Neu Clones

[Brushless55]

If your of that attitude that I cannot argue with you. You are polarized upon cost. And that will win everytime. I know. I have been sitting right in the same position you are in my past. Nothing I can say will sway you and until facts present themselves showing the dollar value over time its a case of usable product for a dollar amount thats going to be spent. I cant win with that view point. I'm not trying to show folks its money ill spent. I just want the uninformed to not make a leap of assumption and not waste their money with certain expectations. This is a sales and product moderation topic with less then accurate description definitions.

The consumer should be informed without assumptions or mis representations. But I digress.

John

So how can someone dis a motor they have never tried??
and to move others away from this product they have never tried??

[crabstick]

So whats for dinner?

Not polarized by cost at all..... Polarized by bang for buck.
I think if its a step up from a Fiegao, and costs not a lot more, its got to be good for the hobby in general, more people racing, and going faster!

We run a few limited spec electric classes at our club, without the chinese motors, they would not exist purely based on cost. Most of the FE racers also have Gas and Nitro boats at our club so they have to stretch funds over a wide range of boats. I think motors like these if they turn out to be as reliable as the trusty Fiegao will really help the hobby, promote FE and get more boats on the water

[Brushless55]

I would love to have Mike build me a JAE 21FE with one of these 4074 2200kv motors and a Turnigy 180 speedo
going fast on a budget

[Himalaya]

Look at the logo, shall we just call it a PUMA Sport motor?

[ray schrauwen]

ooops, sorry, mis-understood, retract.... dumb canuk...

[Brushless55]

Look at the logo, shall we just call it a PUMA Sport motor?

the motor that kicks!

[crabstick]

our n2 spec classes is limited to 2 pole inrunner S Size Fiegao's and clones. ( I got first equal at club champs in N2 hydro running a cheap HK 8s with a modded campbell shovel)

p-restricted is 2 pole inrunner XL size can Fiegao's and clones.

[Himalaya]

Funny here how people say its a clone of Castle/Neu just by its appearance. Was there anyone except Einstein really invented something WITHOUT a previously existing model ?

I saw HUNDREDS of different Leopard Hobby motors on their booth on an RC Expo in early May. dia. from 28mm, 36mm, 40mm... all the way to 56mm mammoth motors, each with multiple length versions. They also provide smooth can/finned can, sensorless/sensored, 2 pole/4 pole, delta/wye, all KV values, stiff leads/silicone wire/solder tab, colors in red/green/gold/grey/black......
...... How many motors does Castle have? Does Castle offer all those different designs? Unsurprisingly some would say they may have copied from multiple manufactures...... Well, Plettenberg also makes multi-pole, multi slot high efficiency motor(like Neu) and has longer history in this industry, so does Neu copied anything from Plett? Medusa as a similarly constructed product of great value, does Medusa copied anything from Neu? Microsoft claims they are the first to offer graphical OS, didn't they "learn" something from Apple? I guess the answer is a crispy NO just because they are American companies ??

Look at the fins in this pic, the design allows more airflow in buggy/truck applications for it meet the direction wind blows. Did Castle design their motor this way ?

[Himalaya]

Well, some pics of the 4074 motors for you guys if interested. (mine are slightly bigger, 4174 in size). They are going to push my HPR115 to an unknown speed.

[crabstick]

carbon wrapped rotor... nice

I want to test one!

[westbeach]

Where did you get the 4174? What is the rating for that?

Well, some pics of the 4074 motors for you guys if interested. (mine are slightly bigger, 4174 in size). They are going to push my HPR115 to an unknown speed.

[BondoBrushless]

Dont hold your breath with these motors even being as good as a Castle Mill let alone a genuine NEU, but for the hobbiest on a tight budget they might be his only option.
Cant knock a guy with a limited budget ?

This is a post by Patrick from Castle on the RCMonster forum .

""Saw these guys in a Chinese model show about a year ago. It's a clone, but uses cheaper components. There are several Castle/Neu clones on the market right now, but none are nearly as good quality -- most use .35mm laminations, where the Castle/Neu uses .2mm laminations, and every one we've seen so far uses inferior bearings, and inferior magnets. These are the most expensive parts of the motor -- and are the most often "skimped" components.

Just going from a .35mm lamination to a .2mm lamination more than doubles the cost of the stator -- but the performance difference at high RPM is extreme...

So you get what you pay for.""

Thread can be read here;

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27209

[m4a1usr]

Well, some pics of the 4074 motors for you guys if interested. (mine are slightly bigger, 4174 in size). They are going to push my HPR115 to an unknown speed.

Motor comparison is good stuff! This is a Castle/Neu 1515/1Y motor.

John

[Brushless55]

Dont hold your breath with these motors even being as good as a Castle Mill let alone a genuine NEU, but for the hobbiest on a tight budget they might be his only option.
Cant knock a guy with a limited budget ?

This is a post by Patrick from Castle on the RCMonster forum .

""Saw these guys in a Chinese model show about a year ago. It's a clone, but uses cheaper components. There are several Castle/Neu clones on the market right now, but none are nearly as good quality -- most use .35mm laminations, where the Castle/Neu uses .2mm laminations, and every one we've seen so far uses inferior bearings, and inferior magnets. These are the most expensive parts of the motor -- and are the most often "skimped" components.

Just going from a .35mm lamination to a .2mm lamination more than doubles the cost of the stator -- but the performance difference at high RPM is extreme...

So you get what you pay for.""

Thread can be read here;
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27209

Just a hint

[Brushless55]

is it just me or has anyone else noticed the price of the Castle 1515 going down?
Hmmmm...