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  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #121
    Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
    I only have a few coming in for testing. I rather test instead of customers being beta testers.

    Someone said they are expensive. Anyone seen a retail cost yet?
    Any word Steven of when your getting some motors?
    .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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    • questtek
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 556

      #122
      Originally posted by Brushless55
      I see no water cooling, how did the temps read?
      I put an Eagle Tree system on the boat when Mark ran it. I believe the motor temp was around 110. If you search the site under a thread posted by MarkF I believe you can even find a video I posted of the Eagle Tree data playpack on my laptop from the run with the Leopard 4075.

      There seems to be lots of interest and threads on the new Genesis. Here is some additional information that you may find of interest:

      1. The stock Genesis set up by HobbyKing uses a 3674 2-pole brushless motor with Seaking 90A ESC turning a P1.4x 38mm Dia nylon prop. Stock speed is 60 kph or 37 MPH
      2. The upgraded set up consists of a Leopard LB4074 4-pole brushless motor and Seaking 120A ESC turning a metal prop P1.4 x 40 mm dia. Stock speed with this set up is 75 kph or 47 MPH
      3. The ultimate set up consists of two Leopard LB4074 4-pole brushless motors and Seaking 120A or upgrade to Seaking 180A ESC’s. Prop size is experimental. Estimated speed in excess of 60 MPH.

      The motor is very efficient however it is easy to use a motor mount with integral water cooling and a factory installed silicon water jacket.

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #123
        Originally posted by questtek
        I put an Eagle Tree system on the boat when Mark ran it. I believe the motor temp was around 110. If you search the site under a thread posted by MarkF I believe you can even find a video I posted of the Eagle Tree data playpack on my laptop from the run with the Leopard 4075.

        There seems to be lots of interest and threads on the new Genesis. Here is some additional information that you may find of interest:

        1. The stock Genesis set up by HobbyKing uses a 3674 2-pole brushless motor with Seaking 90A ESC turning a P1.4x 38mm Dia nylon prop. Stock speed is 60 kph or 37 MPH
        2. The upgraded set up consists of a Leopard LB4074 4-pole brushless motor and Seaking 120A ESC turning a metal prop P1.4 x 40 mm dia. Stock speed with this set up is 75 kph or 47 MPH
        3. The ultimate set up consists of two Leopard LB4074 4-pole brushless motors and Seaking 120A or upgrade to Seaking 180A ESC’s. Prop size is experimental. Estimated speed in excess of 60 MPH.

        The motor is very efficient however it is easy to use a motor mount with integral water cooling and a factory installed silicon water jacket.
        110* that sounds awesome for no cooling
        thanks
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • questtek
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 556

          #124
          Originally posted by Brushless55
          110* that sounds awesome for no cooling
          thanks
          I think it went up to 113F. You can see the vide3o of the Eagle Tree Data at:



          I asked Bill at Eagle Tree about the speed at 75 MPS and not a glitch - He did/could not explain it. Look at the high AMp draw and Watts....almost 3 HP!

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          • ray schrauwen
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 9471

            #125
            So your Hydro did 75mph with the Leopard motor?
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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #126
              Originally posted by questtek
              I think it went up to 113F. You can see the vide3o of the Eagle Tree Data at:



              I asked Bill at Eagle Tree about the speed at 75 MPS and not a glitch - He did/could not explain it. Look at the high AMp draw and Watts....almost 3 HP!
              Very cool stuff, but I did not see the watts that equals 3hp?
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #127
                I see a peak of 1782.2 watts, V x A= W
                134 amps x 13.3 = 1782.2 divide by 746 = 2.38 HP
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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #128
                  Originally posted by ray schrauwen
                  I see a peak of 1782.2 watts, V x A= W
                  134 amps x 13.3 = 1782.2 divide by 746 = 2.38 HP
                  That's what I came up with but he said "almost 3hp"
                  so my math is correct with yours
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • m4a1usr
                    Fast Electric Addict
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2038

                    #129
                    It appears that HK has a ARTR hull with the Leopard 2200kv motor installed. Not a bad looker either for the bux. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...)_Plug-n-Drive


                    John
                    Change is the one Constant

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #130
                      Originally posted by m4a1usr
                      It appears that HK has a ARTR hull with the Leopard 2200kv motor installed. Not a bad looker either for the bux. http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...)_Plug-n-Drive


                      John
                      Yah, someone on OSE has that boat and has taken out the motor to put something else in it...
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • ray schrauwen
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9471

                        #131
                        Originally posted by questtek

                        The motor is very efficient however it is easy to use a motor mount with integral water cooling and a factory installed silicon water jacket.
                        How tight is this motor compared to a Neu, I mean the way the shaft turns?

                        What does it "feel" like?
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                        • MarkF
                          dinogylipos.com
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 979

                          #132
                          The motor has a lot of cog and is hard to turn. That doesn't means anything when comparring motors though. There's also a reason why this motor cost less than half of a Neu. Only time will tell how well these motors hold up over time. I think this motor is fine for sport boaters looking for a cheap alternative and not wanting the best.

                          Mark

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                          • ray schrauwen
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9471

                            #133
                            Thank you, nice info.

                            I have bought really cheasy 4 pole chinese motors before that had cogg, not much and were woefully inefficient. It was a $20 motor... I use it to test esc's now.
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                            • focused
                              Dutch Electric Powerboats
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 237

                              #134
                              Any news on the Big 5692 series if they are selling them and were ? I sent them a email but did not get a reply on it i want to test 2 of them in my next project , MHZ Drambui on Ice 53"catamaran.

                              Last edited by focused; 06-10-2010, 06:19 AM.
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                              • Brushless55
                                Creator
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9488

                                #135
                                That looks like a fun project!
                                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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