Castle motors Watts?

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  • graill
    Retired
    • Oct 2008
    • 389

    #16
    Personally i would ask the manufacturer/distributor of the motors for all specs. White papers should be available on everything, especially high grade electronics/motors.

    If manufacturers/distributor remain silent, draw your own conclusions from that. I know i would.

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    • hydromaddicted
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 83

      #17
      found this

      Castle Neu
      -Casing closed
      -Kevlar wrapped magnets Not carbon inside as the "real" Neu
      -Wires comes out on the side, not in the back
      -The motor shaft has a flat spot
      -5x16x5mm Bearings Japan (Koyo or NMB - CNC grade, 100K RPM rated)
      -Laminations M19 non-oriented magnetic steel Japan
      -Magnets Same as Neu – China N38UH magnet
      -Shaft material Stainless - USA
      -Case T6061 – China
      -US source 10 gauge silicone insulated wire
      -60,000 rpm up to 200F

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      • Steven Vaccaro
        Administrator
        • Apr 2007
        • 8723

        #18
        Originally posted by graill
        Personally i would ask the manufacturer/distributor of the motors for all specs. White papers should be available on everything, especially high grade electronics/motors.

        If manufacturers/distributor remain silent, draw your own conclusions from that. I know i would.
        One reason, the problem with posting "real" numbers, other companies will lie to say they have a higher number. This way the results speak for themselves.
        Steven Vaccaro

        Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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        • Brushless55
          Creator
          • Oct 2008
          • 9488

          #19
          Originally posted by graill
          Personally i would ask the manufacturer/distributor of the motors for all specs. White papers should be available on everything, especially high grade electronics/motors.

          If manufacturers/distributor remain silent, draw your own conclusions from that. I know i would.
          NEU motors are built better and their performance is better
          run cooler, less wasted amps, and more power
          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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          • DISAR
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 1072

            #20
            Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro
            One reason, the problem with posting "real" numbers, other companies will lie to say they have a higher number. This way the results speak for themselves.
            I agree with that and that's what we need to know from personal experience.
            Twin Cat 135, Sprintcat40 (single-twin), DF 35", Maritimo, Mean Machine, SV 27
            http://www.rcfastboats.com/

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            • Brushless55
              Creator
              • Oct 2008
              • 9488

              #21
              And I will throw this out there..
              If anyone wants to send me a Castle motor and NEU motor of the same size, to do some runs back to back in my MM or big gas KOS I will!
              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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              • longballlumber
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 3132

                #22
                Has any one actually called Castle to ask?

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                • sailr
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 6927

                  #23
                  In my opinion, watts are too subjective to be truly measurable. Most brushless outrunner airplane motors just take the max volts the motor will stand by the max amps it will stand, multiply the two and give you watts. Absolutely meaningless. Watts change with battery, prop, etc. In the airplane world, I measure the thrust which is a much truer indication of how the airplane will fly. Then I use a watt meter to make sure I'm not gonna burn up the motor with that prop. With boats, it's much more difficult. Other than an eagle tree system, you can't really know how many amps it is pulling and the prop is often in and out of the water with serious amp spikes going on. I pay attention to not exceed the max amp and max volt ratings for the motor and then check the temps. Works good for me. Too many people want to run 4S on a motor and esc only rated for 3S and then wonder why stuff burns up! Go figure, eh?
                  Mini Cat Racing USA
                  www.minicatracingusa.com

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                  • Rumdog
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6453

                    #24
                    All that I know is that mine work excellent, with very little heat.

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                    • sailr
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 6927

                      #25
                      Yep, and that's all you or anyone should be worried about.

                      Originally posted by Rumdog
                      All that I know is that mine work excellent, with very little heat.
                      Mini Cat Racing USA
                      www.minicatracingusa.com

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                      • sailr
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 6927

                        #26
                        Ryan,
                        Did you get the pics and tracking number?

                        Originally posted by Rumdog
                        All that I know is that mine work excellent, with very little heat.
                        Mini Cat Racing USA
                        www.minicatracingusa.com

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #27
                          Originally posted by longballlumber
                          Has any one actually called Castle to ask?
                          I've seen a few threads through the web on just this topic, and the NEU motors are better than the Castle motors..
                          Castle motors are great, but the better of the two is NEU, they are much more efficient
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • Rumdog
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 6453

                            #28
                            How have people drawn this conclusion? Since my Castle's run very cool, that means they are losing very little power through heat. I'm tempted to get a 1515 neu to compare to my castle/neu.

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                            • ozzie-crawl
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2865

                              #29
                              seems to be a lot of "neu,s are better" but haven't seen any evidence to back that up, and if there was i doubt there would be enough in it to see a difference in most setups

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                              • Rumdog
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6453

                                #30
                                I agree. I also think that if they weren't up to par that Steve Neu wouldn't be afilliating himself with the motors.

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