Castle Hydra 120A vs Seaking (hobbywing) 180A

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  • MonsterMaxx
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 49

    #1

    Castle Hydra 120A vs Seaking (hobbywing) 180A

    I'm getting pretty close to having made all the decisions for upgrading the Titan 29" and the UL1 to run 6s30c2650 packs in a 6s2p configuration.

    Will be using the fiegao 13xl motors and will prop them somewhere around 50-60 amps = 1100-1300 watts.

    Trying to decide between the hobbywing 180A esc and the Castle 120A and I need two of them.

    The hobbywing is a lot less $ and has more headroom in case I ever want to use these in something else but it does weigh more and is a 'cheap chinese' product - who I'm never thrilled with supporting, then again, the Castle stuff is probably made in china anyway so what's the diff.

    So, for those of you who have used both of these, which would you choose? Would you spend the extra $100+ for the castle or....

    Also, not only is the castle quite a bit more $, but it's BEC won't work on 6s, so I have to add a waterproof BEC too.

    money is tight around here, no question about that, the plan already has me spending more than I'd ever planned on.
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    5 cars, 9 trucks, 2 scale, 1 crawler, 2 boats, 8 helis, 3 planes, 1 jet, a hydralic endloader, and that’s just the ones that are rtr or nearly so, not even counting the ones in a bucket, ugh, I got it bad.
  • domwilson
    Moderator
    • Apr 2007
    • 4408

    #2
    Have you considered these... http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...-200A-BEC.html
    Government Moto:
    "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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    • MonsterMaxx
      Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 49

      #3
      Originally posted by domwilson
      Cost is nice, but it says it's not for boats. Granted I could add water cooling to it, but pretty sure I want one that if it gets wet I don't have junk. Then again, I guess I could give it a conformal coating. hmm, something to consider

      Good suggestion. Keep 'em coming.
      Last edited by MonsterMaxx; 07-10-2009, 12:54 PM.
      5 cars, 9 trucks, 2 scale, 1 crawler, 2 boats, 8 helis, 3 planes, 1 jet, a hydralic endloader, and that’s just the ones that are rtr or nearly so, not even counting the ones in a bucket, ugh, I got it bad.

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      • Flying Scotsman
        Fast Electric Adict!
        • Jun 2007
        • 5190

        #4
        If, you are going to run 6S2P...neither. You will need a high voltage ESC.

        Douggie

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        • calcagno45
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2008
          • 1006

          #5
          those are sketchy tho. I know a lot have used them with mixed results. I had 2 of the HiModels go out, 1 with little use, 1 ran for a long time!
          My prop hasn't been wet in a while.

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          • bustitup
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2008
            • 3071

            #6
            I can give you a good deal on this and will handle your need easy

            its brand new

            Only reason i am selling is because i need much more amps with HV
            this is a HV controller that will handle 12s



            SPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
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            • MonsterMaxx
              Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 49

              #7
              Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
              If, you are going to run 6S2P...neither. You will need a high voltage ESC.

              Douggie
              I think you need to figure that again Douggie. 6s2p means I'm not running them in series, I'm running them in parallel. Still 6s voltage 22.2. The mah does double, but not the voltage.

              If I was running them in series, it's be 12s1p...and that's what I do in my 600e heli. Originally I wanted to do this in the boats too, but everyone convinced me that it's excessive. After doing a price workout, the cost would be nearly double to run these in series for 12s, plus motor selection gets pretty slim to get the right KV.
              The decision to stay with 6s came down to a wallet decision.
              5 cars, 9 trucks, 2 scale, 1 crawler, 2 boats, 8 helis, 3 planes, 1 jet, a hydralic endloader, and that’s just the ones that are rtr or nearly so, not even counting the ones in a bucket, ugh, I got it bad.

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              • domwilson
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 4408

                #8
                Originally posted by MonsterMaxx
                Cost is nice, but it says it's not for boats. Granted I could add water cooling to it, but pretty sure I want one that if it gets wet I don't have junk. Then again, I guess I could give it a conformal coating. hmm, something to consider

                Good suggestion. Keep 'em coming.
                Hello there,
                There are a few threads on this forum on how to waterproof and water cool these ESC's. There are alot of guys, including myself, that have these and think they are great. I haven't heard anything bad with them. There's also this one... http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...200A-OPTO.html
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                • Flying Scotsman
                  Fast Electric Adict!
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 5190

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MonsterMaxx
                  I think you need to figure that again Douggie. 6s2p means I'm not running them in series, I'm running them in parallel. Still 6s voltage 22.2. The mah does double, but not the voltage.

                  If I was running them in series, it's be 12s1p...and that's what I do in my 600e heli. Originally I wanted to do this in the boats too, but everyone convinced me that it's excessive. After doing a price workout, the cost would be nearly double to run these in series for 12s, plus motor selection gets pretty slim to get the right KV.
                  The decision to stay with 6s came down to a wallet decision.
                  Nope, you need a high voltage ESC. Neither of those contollers will survive 6S voltage and bustitup's will do the job.

                  Douggie

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                  • MonsterMaxx
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 49

                    #10
                    I guess if I'm really trying to pinch pennies, I ought to be looking at the Seaking 90A also. If I prop this thing the way I ought to it should be fine as well. These can be found in the $40-60 range
                    5 cars, 9 trucks, 2 scale, 1 crawler, 2 boats, 8 helis, 3 planes, 1 jet, a hydralic endloader, and that’s just the ones that are rtr or nearly so, not even counting the ones in a bucket, ugh, I got it bad.

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                    • MonsterMaxx
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 49

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                      Nope, you need a high voltage ESC. Neither of those contollers will survive 6S voltage and bustitup's will do the job.

                      Douggie
                      I don't understand why you are saying that, all these ESC are rated to 6s...why would I need a HV esc?
                      5 cars, 9 trucks, 2 scale, 1 crawler, 2 boats, 8 helis, 3 planes, 1 jet, a hydralic endloader, and that’s just the ones that are rtr or nearly so, not even counting the ones in a bucket, ugh, I got it bad.

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                      • domwilson
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4408

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                        Nope, you need a high voltage ESC. Neither of those contollers will survive 6S voltage and bustitup's will do the job.

                        Douggie
                        I've read in many posts that the Hydra 120's don't like the 6s configuration and I don't think castle will honor their warranty for it. I have a couple and I am afraid to run them on 6s myself because of all the bad experience's others have had with 6s. Not exactly cheap to experiment with.
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                        • Flying Scotsman
                          Fast Electric Adict!
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 5190

                          #13
                          Believe me you pushing those controllers for boat useage.

                          Douggie

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                          • Rumdog
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 6453

                            #14
                            I ran 6s on a hi-model 82 200 amp esc. I did water cool it myself. It was powering a kb-45 8xl. Ran nice and cool! only ran it a few times though. Not sure how it would be in the long run, but for that price.......

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                            • Rumdog
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6453

                              #15
                              Sorry, meant hi-model 8s

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