Seaking 180 ESC RPM Question?

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  • Howard
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 194

    #16
    hmmmm maybe that's it Doc, I tried the black line you mentioned with the same results. It's 7:30 am here.

    I also have the same setup in a REd Evo that I have and with 3S it runs at 30,000 rpm and with 4S it runs at 40,000 RPM's which is normal. So if you are correct about the 2 pole and 4 pole how do I fix it? Or is there no fix?

    Howard

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    • Howard
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 194

      #17
      OK Doc have a peaceful sleep :-)

      I just did some research and discovered the Ammo motors are 2-pole. So maybe your on to something.

      So I'm wondering my options now. 1) will I fry the motor running it this way? Should I lower the timing on the ESC maybe?

      Or just use a different motor with this ESC?

      Thanks for your help, I think were pin pointing this problem

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      • drwayne
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2008
        • 2981

        #18
        The catch22 here ( the twist ) is that if the 2 pole is actually driven twice compared a 4.giving us 2S@2600kv=45krpm, then why does 3s@2600kv act like a 4pole with 35krpm ?
        Ive not taken a T180 apart to learn scripts or limits, I design things, not copy them.!
        I recall reading something about 60k rpm firing speed limit
        However, not all esc work for all motors.
        Grab a diff esc.. swordfish/aquastar/hifei120A will fit this bill..


        Id guess Jay is lurking about somewhere.
        comments ?

        W
        Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
        @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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        • Howard
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 194

          #19
          Well Doc I did try a different ESC today ( I guess we think alike) and had the same results. I then put the boat in the water and it ran OK until I gave it full throttle. It ran for about 15 seconds and then started to slow down drastically. I brought it in and the motor was smoking at 155 F. Conclusion... The motor was/is bad. It's funny because I had a similar problem awhile back with a used boat I bought and didn't think about it until today. The motor also screamed and got real hot on land. I never used the motor and just figured it was bad. Now that I think back and with this incident my conclusion is if the motor screams like these did there's something wrong internally as apposed to a motor that is just dead and doesn't run.


          Howard

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          • drwayne
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2008
            • 2981

            #20
            722am
            glad you have it sorted.
            B)
            Wayne Schutte PhdCSE BaSE BaEE. Australian, & damn proud of it YOUTUBE
            @ 36" H&M Maritmo twin1512/1800 6S1P 88mph @ 40" drag hydro#1 twin 5692 12S1P .....always for fun @

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